nickthehunter
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BCSnob wrote:I’d go the other way, roads are paid for by users; new transportation projects are paid for by other funding sources (like income or business tax). so when you raise the taxes on the guy that makes Cheerios, where do you suppose he gets the money to pay that increase in tax?
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nickthehunter wrote:BCSnob wrote:I’d go the other way, roads are paid for by users; new transportation projects are paid for by other funding sources (like income or business tax). so when you raise the taxes on the guy that makes Cheerios, where do you suppose he gets the money to pay that increase in tax?
So who should pay for adding more lanes to highways or building mass transit to carry increasing traffic commuting to work?
Business (current or new) adding employees
Housing developers building new neighborhoods
People who live in rural areas that won’t use the new transportation infrastructure
Print more money (borrow from the future)
Let corporations build and charge for it (toll lanes with dynamic tolling at $40/10miles at “rush hr”)
Or just let everyone deal with longer commute times
It’s easy to say “don’t do it that way”; it’s much harder to actually propose a solution to the increasing traffic and crumbling roads and bridges. Try it……
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nickthehunter
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BCSnob wrote:nickthehunter wrote:BCSnob wrote:I’d go the other way, roads are paid for by users; new transportation projects are paid for by other funding sources (like income or business tax). so when you raise the taxes on the guy that makes Cheerios, where do you suppose he gets the money to pay that increase in tax?
So who should pay for adding more lanes to highways or building mass transit to carry increasing traffic commuting to work?
Business (current or new) adding employees
Housing developers building new neighborhoods
People who live in rural areas that won’t use the new transportation infrastructure
Print more money (borrow from the future)
Let corporations build and charge for it (toll lanes with dynamic tolling at $40/10miles at “rush hr”)
Or just let everyone deal with longer commute times
It’s easy to say “don’t do it that way”; it’s much harder to actually propose a solution to the increasing traffic and crumbling roads and bridges. Try it…… we’re going to pay, one way or the other. The only question is how many pockets it passes through until it gets to ours. Of course the man won’t tell you it’s coming out of your pocket, he wants you to believe someone else is paying for it. So instead of lying about it (and trying to make them believe someone else is paying for it), how about just saying we’re going to raise your taxes x% to pay for new roads; and cut out all the middlemen and their cut.
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nickthehunter wrote:BCSnob wrote:I’d go the other way, roads are paid for by users; new transportation projects are paid for by other funding sources (like income or business tax). so when you raise the taxes on the guy that makes Cheerios, where do you suppose he gets the money to pay that increase in tax?
That tax money is money that will not be spent buying toys, or even food.
OTOH, if you tax the people that have more money than they can spend, nothing comes out of the economy
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nickthehunter wrote:BCSnob wrote:I’d go the other way, roads are paid for by users; new transportation projects are paid for by other funding sources (like income or business tax). so when you raise the taxes on the guy that makes Cheerios, where do you suppose he gets the money to pay that increase in tax? Yes exactly. Again those that use or utilize the roads will pay the taxes and the consumers that consume more will pay through the products they buy.
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larry cad wrote:We're from the government, we're here to help you! The government does help a lot of people. Just about everyone actually.
Here is a direct example:
https://www.newsweek.com/mail-carriers-i........womans-life-after-wellness-check-1674629
Unfortunately for some people that statement scares them. We the people are the government. Please get more involved.
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FishOnOne wrote:Not sure how to quantify this test but I would consider calling it an epic fail.
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X2 for heavy towing. It will be interesting to see their next test which will focus more on typical homeowner usage.
And the 7,600 mile off road Rivian trip (43 days coast to coast) in Motortrend Jan 2022 demonstrated the potential future of EV trucks. It’s a 16 page article on their trip on the Trans-America Trail will very few paved miles. This is an extreme torture route.
Some of my take aways from these 2 articles: The Rivian is a superior truck to gas/diesel trucks in every category except heavy towing. This includes ride, comfort, noise, acceleration, flat underbody, fording up to 42.7 inches of water and more. This is due in part to the McLaren like hydraulic cross-linked suspension with a motor on each wheel and 908 lb-ft of torque.
Other articles I’ve read on battery development suggest 3x battery capacity at the same weight with a 1 million mile life. Or same battery capacity at 1/3 the weight. Future development and price will continue to evolve. As will deployment of charging stations.
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Two main ways to pay for roads and transportation projects: through the government via some taxing mechanism or through involvement of corporations where they will want make a profit via tolls. Which of these will cost the average road user less?
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BCSnob wrote:Two main ways to pay for roads and transportation projects: through the government via some taxing mechanism or through involvement of corporations where they will want make a profit via tolls. Which of these will cost the average road user less? I can just imagine a toll both on every residential street so that each of us only pay our own.
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