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I will quietly rejoice when I regain confidence that I will see my family again. I am too advanced in years to ever see things "normal" again.
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NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO LOWER YOUR GUARD
In three days time I have been made aware of three "close but not directly connected" households that have tested positive for COVID19. I am tightening personal safeguards. For me, I have run a year long cuarentina and don't want to fall flat on my face yards from the finish line. The virus is not impressed with news of the vaccine.
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MEXICOWANDERER
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This question can only be answered by a professional virologist...
Healthcare workers are receiving a first inoculation then 2nd weeks later.
At what point does an acceptable meaning low percentage of radiated transmission of the virus from them occur?
Example: I do not want to leave my enclave to get tested and receive an accidental dose in the process.
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BCSnob
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The phase iii data for the Pfizer vaccine did not demonstrate vaccinated individuals could not transmit the virus; only that the vaccine protected against developing symptoms. There was some limited data in the AstraZeneca phase iii trial that their vaccine prevented asymptotic infections.
Quote:Q: Can you still get infected, and infect others, if you get vaccinated?
A: Possibly. None of the vaccines tested so far have been 100 percent effective so some vaccinated people may still catch the coronavirus.
What’s more, neither the Pfizer nor the Moderna vaccine trials tested whether the vaccines prevent people from being infected with the virus. Those trials, instead, focused on whether people were shielded from developing disease symptoms. That means that it’s not clear whether vaccinated people could still develop asymptomatic infections — and thus still be able to spread the virus to others.
In both trials, some people who got the vaccine did get sick with COVID-19, but not as sick as those who got placebos. One vaccine recipient became severely ill in the Pfizer study compared with nine in the placebo group (SN: 11/18/20). No one who got the Moderna vaccine became severely ill, while 30 people who got the placebo developed severe disease (SN: 11/30/20).
In a separate trial, AstraZeneca and the University of Oxford have reported that they found fewer asymptomatic cases among people who had gotten their vaccine than in a comparison group (SN: 11/23/20). That might suggest some protection against infection as well as illness.
In general, some vaccines are more effective at reducing severity of disease than reducing transmission. While these early COVID-19 vaccines will probably all have some effect on transmission, it remains to be seen how much or if one vaccine is better at reducing the spread of the virus than another.
It is important to remember that you can’t get COVID-19 directly from the vaccines being evaluated now as none of them contain the complete virus.
Source: ScienceNews
The other thing to consider is the environment where you might see a vaccinated health care worker; this virus is airborne.
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Long video, but I'm interested in your responses.
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I would like to say thanks for all of the information that has been shared, it is appreciated. My wife works for Orlando Health and they are receiving approximately 5000 doses with the first scheduled team member day this Friday and she has a 7:45AM. It’s at a different location so we will be going together on her day off then getting a nice breakfast. She was a little reluctant which is understandable and I pushed for her to get it. On a goofy side, she said if she grows a tail or something she’s going to mad at me. Just a little of our humor.
I will report back on how it goes with any reactions and obviously this is the Pfizer approved vaccine.
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MEXICOWANDERER
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Trusting nothing, no one gets near me unless they test negative. I can only assume this pathogen is not screwy enough to test negative after recovery or inoculation then become infectious later on. Also meaning test positive. Once I get jabbed I will moon the virus.
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Also you stated the reason for my FAVORTISM of the AZ serum. Now AZ is reportedly involved with talks with the Russians about combining serums with the Sputnik serum. Good luck with that. The more the merrier. I hope Johnson is in or near Phase 3 trials. The inoculation timetable needs to shrink.
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You took me back to school ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
I'm happy there are scientists that are forward thinking, inquisitive and talented.
There is a need for government support for scientific research even if the need isn't immediately apparent. The reason we have the knowledge and the ability to produce vaccine and anti-virals so rapidly is because of people like these at Vanderbilt.
While the vaccine creation and production has been amazingly rapid, the actual methodology and knowledge base is years (decades) in development.
The vaccines that have successfully gone through trials are safe and effective.
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Deb and Ed M
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Great explanations! The hardest part, IMO, will be getting the average person to understand the caveats - that you might be able to spread Covid even after being vaccinated (at least until our researchers have more data). That means still wearing a mask and social distancing won't end for quite a while. The rush to approve these vaccines (which was the proper thing to do) means we are all becoming part of the ongoing research.
I'm OK with that. I'll be excited to be vaccinated when my group is up :-)
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MEXICOWANDERER
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The final proof will rest with hundreds of millions of human beings over a period of a year. It seems hyper allergenic people should discuss the vaccine with their respective private specialist. That number is very low.
Seniors living alone may want someone to check on them a couple times a day after receiving the 2nd jab. It would only be for a day or two. And would apply to those individuals 70 plus with mobility issues.
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