2oldman
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Turtle n Peeps wrote:If you're going to be impacted by C19 I suggest you stay home and protect yourself. Wear a mask in your house and keep all people away. Have a fried shop for you and drop your groceries off on your porch. Now you're just being obtuse and sarcastic.
If more people followed the distancing and mask guidelines earlier, perhaps we wouldn't be seeing cases rising exponentially. It's the only protection we have.Turtle n Peeps wrote:You seem to forget that one of the first WHO's recommendations was to NOT wear a mask.
So what? Science changes and we go with that. But obviously not you.
I think some of the "ME" generation is right here.
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Cloud Dancer
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Yeah,....right,....like I'm going to suddenly get argumentative with everyone?
IMO everyone should've started to wear masks everywhere, all the time, five months ago, mandated by law.
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wing_zealot
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First - Science is undecided about whether the mask helps or not.
Second - The whole idea about shelter in place, masks, etc. was to flatten the curve. None of those cure covid or stop the spread.
The only cure is herd immunity or a vaccine; and a vaccine is still a year away if ever. So sounds like herd immunity (while protecting the most vulnerable) is the best solution.
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BCSnob
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wing_zealot wrote:First - Science is undecided about whether the mask helps or not. Links have been provided to published studies showing masks reduced the spread of viruses by infected people (even those without symptoms). Please provide published studies (Fox News stories are not published scientific studies) that masks do not reduce the spread of viruses.
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wing_zealot wrote:Second - The whole idea about shelter in place, masks, etc. was to flatten the curve. None of those cure covid or stop the spread. I never know if these kinds of statements are serious or just messing with us.
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BCSnob
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The change in recommendation for mask use was related to recognizing magnitude of the number of asymptomatic people and that these people are spreading the virus. Mask use went from protecting the wearer (which is minimal) to reducing the emission of virus by the wearer.
Having high risk people stay home is not sufficient to protect those people. Take a look at Sweden. You also must prevent their caregivers from bringing in the virus to those self isolating. How do you propose to protect the caregivers who must go out of self isolation in order to provide care to those at high risk?
How do you propose to protect the high risk people who must work (will loose their house, can’t feed their family, can’t pay their medical bills, needs medical insurance, etc) and have a customer facing job? My sister has one of these jobs and she had a non mask wearing customer cough in her face spewing droplets on her skin and glasses. Where was her protection from some else’s personal liberties?
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Quote:That's where you're incorrect. Science is exacting.
And the science really has not changed from the beginning. The interpretation and recommendations have.
The science says that a regular surgical mask or cloth mask does not prevent passage of the coronavirus. It does reduce the virus inhaled by about 20% - so you do get some protection versus not wearing.
The early recommendations to not wear a mask were in part due to the lack of PPE supply and it was thought (accurately !!) that we would run short for medical personnel if everybody started to grab up masks.
The new recommendations to wear masks takes into account that this virus spreads via respiratory droplets and community spread MUCH MORE easily that first thought. Wearing a mask reduces the spread that you could do by 80%.
If you have any skepticism, go talk to a health worker on the front lines in any hospital in the US. If you are still not convinced, go watch a person sick with this disease gasping for breath.
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Pawz4me
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Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Ummm... I kinda hate that I need to ask what should be obvious, but you do realize that many people can't wear masks for serious health issues. Even their Dr's advise them not too.
That's a straw man, unless you can post a link to any mask mandate that doesn't provide an exception for those people.
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2oldman
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dturm wrote:The new recommendations to wear masks takes into account that this virus spreads via respiratory droplets and community spread MUCH MORE easily that first thought. Wearing a mask reduces the spread that you could do by 80%. Good points, all. It's a new disease and we're learning.
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Giving this a rest for a while.
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