Me Again
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If one types in blue does that mean they know more than those of us that have hauled/driven commercial trucks subject to federal bridge weight laws parroted by states and state licensing? I do not think so. Marty has the t-shirt, merit badge, and hat, along with Jimnlin, myself and many others here.
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Yes.![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/awink.gif "awink")
I don't haul commercial, but I enforce traffic law. No traffic law exists that has anything to do with the yellow sticker... The only weight enforceable options that I have in Maryland are Tire rating, registered weight rating and federal bridge rating per inch width of tire.
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Me Again
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spoon059 wrote:Yes.
I don't haul commercial, but I enforce traffic law. No traffic law exists that has anything to do with the yellow sticker... The only weight enforceable options that I have in Maryland are Tire rating, registered weight rating and federal bridge rating per inch width of tire.
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Me Again wrote:spoon059 wrote:Yes.
I don't haul commercial, but I enforce traffic law. No traffic law exists that has anything to do with the yellow sticker... The only weight enforceable options that I have in Maryland are Tire rating, registered weight rating and federal bridge rating per inch width of tire.
10-4 I am pretty sure that the yellow sticker is for the trailers... Not the trucks. At least my 2011 Silverado does not have a "yellow" sticker. My 2010 TT does have one though.
And if the rest of the comment was directed towards me.... I never said anything about Maryland traffic law. Or any other traffic law.
What I said is the sticker is what is legal. IOW... What the sticker says is what the manufacturer is representing the vehicle to be capable of. That has implications. If you go over that, then you are on the hook, not the manufacturer.
That could be to deny a warranty claim, or any other relevant situation.
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Me Again
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Again hotshot haulers laugh at RV weight police, and their lack of understand of the weight restrictions and licensing requirements.
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Me Again
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BTW all recently produced vehicles and trailers have a carrying capacity sticker that is the GVWR minus the actual weight as manufactured. This sticker is yellow or the part with this info is yellow. Look again.
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Huntindog wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:"What does confuse the issue is taxes and weight enforcement."
THIS is exactly why my Dually and all newer DRW pickups INCLUDING the f450 have 14K GVWR. If one pound over that it puts them in a Commercial classification!
Speaking of IRV2 I was kicked off there from stating my 14K was only there for licensing and tax purposes having that argument with SmokyWren I believe was the Moderators name. They actually accused me trying to sell my new truck and RV as an excuse to kick me off.
My argument was how can I have a SAE rated RAWR of 9,750# and load it to that and ONLY use my unloaded front axle weight of about 5,300# add these you get 15K.
He INSISTED I was overweight even tho I have tonnage to cover my actual 15,600# loaded truck weight. I don't think I have ever seen a vehicle where the axle ratings added up to the GVWR. They always add up to more. Has nothing to do with a dually or classification. More to do with leeway for load distribution.
Please explain how I can load to my RAWR and NOT be over my GVWR. Why have a RAWR if I can't load to its limits.
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Huntindog
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Me Again wrote:BTW all recently produced vehicles and traikers have a carrying capacity sticker that is the GVWR minus the actual weight as manufactured. This sticker is yellow or the part with this info is yellow. Look again. I have already looked. MY 2011 sticker is 100% silver with black print... And as an aside my axle weights add up to more than the GVWR, by quite a bit. GVWR is 13K. Axle ratings total over 15K.... GM COULD have put 14K as the GVWR and stayed in the same classification... They chose not to.
There must be a reason for that.
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wnjj wrote:Actually Washington cares about GVWR when it comes to chain laws: https://www.wsdot.com/winter/traction.htm
That’s an example of outdated laws that haven’t kept up with the times. 10,000 lbs used to mean “commercial” style trucks and not your average commuter pickup truck.
Even with the wording used, they IE WSP who would enforce this on the passes here in Washington will probably use your paper registration vs door sticker gvwr. Or do the sum of tow rig plus trailer axle amount.
When I used my TT as a ski hut in the winter, if the chain required for over 10k was up, I chains the rear of my 4wd truck, and rear axle of trailer. Yeah I was only required to have one tire on trailer.....felt better with two.
Oregon, California, Montana and Idaho have similar chain up laws and rules.
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Huntingdog,
FYI, my Navistar gvw is the.total of the raw and faw combined. 12200 rear, 6000 front, total 18200. Got pulled over at 27200, got a 10 day up paid for.registration to 28000. I.was 1000 lbs per axle under FBL axle load limits.
Have to admit too, got a $170 or so ticket for.looking pea gravel out the barn doors on back. Had to move rock so it was not falling out. Along with.dealing with.a moving violation ticket. Being over registration is not a moving violation, that would not go on your driving record.
But as many have noted, the door sticker number is warranty related. It is not enforced by an LEO. If a jurisdiction in the states enforces the door sticker amount, they can loose federal funding of roads, assuming federal funds are asked for. That is written in the federal bridge laws.
Marty
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