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bowler1 wrote: Hi,
I am looking to get a one ton diesel SRW truck to tow a fairly heavy fifth wheel. I need one that will have sufficient payload to safely tow a trailer with a 2500 pound pin weight plus cargo, etc. and I really don't want to get a dually if I can avoid it.
I am looking for a long bed with a trim package equivalent to the Lariat, Laramie, etc.
Which of the Big Three has the highest payload rating? I would think that they would be fairly close but...
From what I have found so far in researching just Ford and Dodge it seems that an equivalently equipped long bed diesel in the high end trim package that the Ford has about 3200 pounds of payload but the Dodge has about 4200. Can this be right? That seems like a huge discrepency. Am I missing something here?
How does the Chevy compare?
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You should have no problem, but we need more info. 2wd or 4 wd? Crew cab, reg, double cab?
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Shouldn't be too hard to figure - there's only three truck makers.
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My reg cab 2500 has as much payload as my now sold diesel crew cab dually!
How much payload can depend on cab configuration. are you getting one of the std 8' beds, or a short bed? 2wd, 4 wd? Ext cab, crew cab? leather or base work truck interior?
Get the rig that fits you butt the best! Otherwise, it is a pure guessing game as to which rig is really better.
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Hi,
I am the OP.
Thanks for all of the information. I do have some additional information to ad that I guess I forgot to put in the original post.
I am looking for a crew cab, 4x4, long bed in a Laramie, Lariat or LTZ configuration. This combination of features does lower the payload.
Agree with the poster above that says that it should be easy to figure out given only 3 truck makers, but so far that has not proven to be the case. There are a lot of variables and you really need to compare apples to apples. All the advertised weights are for stripped down gas engines...and some are for the dually and not the SRW which does not help.
I never thought this would be an issue when looking at new F350s until I looked at the door sticker and found that a truck that I thought from my research should have about a 3900 pound payload only had a 3200 pound payload. Big difference.
Again, it seems from what I have seen that the Ram in a similar configuration is over 4000 pounds as shown by door stickers, but I can't figure out why there would be such a huge difference.
To complicate matters, people on the ford forums tell me that Ford sells some of their trucks with a lower weight rating (despite no difference in teh truck) to certain states where the higher rated trucks are taxed as commercial vehicles. So the sticker weight may be "deflated"
Not sure why this has been such a difficult search. Just don't want to buy the wrong truck to safely pull the trailer i am looking at....and really don't want a dually since this will be my daily driver.
Matt
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bowler1 wrote: Hi,
I am the OP.
Thanks for all of the information. I do have some additional information to ad that I guess I forgot to put in the original post.
I am looking for a crew cab, 4x4, long bed in a Laramie, Lariat or LTZ configuration. This combination of features does lower the payload.
Agree with the poster above that says that it should be easy to figure out given only 3 truck makers, but so far that has not proven to be the case. There are a lot of variables and you really need to compare apples to apples. All the advertised weights are for stripped down gas engines...and some are for the dually and not the SRW which does not help.
I never thought this would be an issue when looking at new F350s until I looked at the door sticker and found that a truck that I thought from my research should have about a 3900 pound payload only had a 3200 pound payload. Big difference.
Again, it seems from what I have seen that the Ram in a similar configuration is over 4000 pounds as shown by door stickers, but I can't figure out why there would be such a huge difference.
To complicate matters, people on the ford forums tell me that Ford sells some of their trucks with a lower weight rating (despite no difference in teh truck) to certain states where the higher rated trucks are taxed as commercial vehicles. So the sticker weight may be "deflated"
Not sure why this has been such a difficult search. Just don't want to buy the wrong truck to safely pull the trailer i am looking at....and really don't want a dually since this will be my daily driver.
Matt
I have read about Ford deflating some of their trucks specs as well.... I have never verified it though.
It could be an internet myth. Something that starts out as speculation, and gets repeated enough times that many accept it as fact.
If it was my money and it was important to me.... I would do my homework before plunking down the money on such a truck.
You could look up part numbers for the different trucks on various parts. Several websites such as Rock auto Oriellys, even Ford could shed some light on it. Look at parts such as u joints, wheel bearings brake parts etc.
Not as easy as just posting the question on a forum.. But definently more reliable.
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Agree with you that this may be a myth, and I would not make a purchase under the assumption that the numbers were deflated. I want to buy a Ford, but the payload stickers are suggesting to me that I need to look at something else.
Matt
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You've made enough posts in the last week you should already now what he answers are. You want more payload, buy a gasser. You want more torque, buy a diesel. You want both, buy a dually.
Really simple, choose your poison, it ain't rocket science.
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A Gasser can give the truck a bigger GVWR based payload but in the real world less than 100 lb difference based on the trucks RAWR payload which is how much load we can carry in the bed.
The OP is looking at GVWR based payloads in trucks on dealers lots and may or may not indicative what he can actually order or what is actually out here on the road or other dealers lots.
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troubledwaters wrote: You've made enough posts in the last week you should already now what he answers are. You want more payload, buy a gasser. You want more torque, buy a diesel. You want both, buy a dually.
Really simple, choose your poison, it ain't rocket science.
X2!!!!!
Yet OP has not stated what 5er size, model, or weight he is looking at! He stated a
2,500# pin weight, if that is a brochure weight he will likely be over GVWR, and possibly axle and tire for a SRW.
To the OP what is the GVWR of the 5er you are looking at??
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JIMNLIN wrote: A Gasser can give the truck a bigger GVWR based payload but in the real world less than 100 lb difference based on the trucks RAWR payload which is how much load we can carry in the bed.
The OP is looking at GVWR based payloads in trucks on dealers lots and may or may not indicative what he can actually order or what is actually out here on the road or other dealers lots. I believe the OP already knows how to exceed his payload rating if that is what he chooses to do.
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