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Posted: 06/21/17 01:57pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ok, here we go.....

Above the foot of the bed, there was a small cabinet, with a hole in the side towards the head of the bed, for a tv.

This pic, is after I pulled down what looked like good paneling on the inside. This is the beginning of what greeted me. Remember, the ceiling paneling looked good?

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Did u notice the funny looking area in the insulation? I did not damage that when I pulled the ceiling paneling down. Look closer.......

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Posted: 06/21/17 02:17pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Sorry for the quality of this picture. I didn't realize it when I took it. This is the same place with the insulation removed. Above the insulation, the plywood has delaminated......


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Ok. This one is a little better. The bright spots here is sunshine on the other side of the fiberglass roofing. Small areas of the plywood are gone, and I could see the bottom of the fiberglass. Was a nice sunny day.


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Another shot after the small cabinet has been removed. U may notice that there is plywood in the roof. That was glued in so the cabinet next to this one could hang clothes in it. There was an aluminum hanger in the next cabinet that was screwed into the plywood. When hanging clothing screwing into 3mm paneling and blue board insulation won't hold much, hence the plywood.


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Posted: 06/21/17 02:28pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

This was also a surprise. Holes in the blue board insulation. Why is that, u ask?


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And here.........


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Glad u asked. As soon as I removed the ceiling paneling, I saw a nest of ants running in every direction. I never knew ants would bore holes in blue board insulation. Found the queen, and got rid of her, so problem solved.

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Posted: 06/21/17 02:38pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

This is a picture inside the cabinet next to the fridge on one side, and next to the small cabinet that was at the end of the bed.

Notice how good the ceiling paneling looks. There is no evidence that there is a leak above, nor a nest of ants up there as well.


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Ah, the light has come on. Yup, just a tiny hole in the roof, nearly invisible from the top, but when sunlight is on the outside, very easily visible. However, the insulation glued to the ceiling paneling, kept the water from coming inside, making it look like there was no leak.


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Posted: 06/21/17 02:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Getting there...........LOL.


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Posted: 06/21/17 04:25pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ok, on to the passenger side living room window area. There was carpet on that wall below the window, that we removed, and then I removed the paneling.


I modified this pic slightly, unsure if the other one was too dark for your monitor.

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Under the passenger side living room window with the paneling off. This is the area beneath the left side of the window.


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And this is under the right side......


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Posted: 06/21/17 04:43pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Now, there are several things to look at in these pictures. On the first pic, the upper right corner has a piece of plywood glued in, instead of insulation. Obviously that is to fasten a heavier object from inside. Pictured here with the yellow square.



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Also notice at the bottom. You remember I said earlier, I wasn't sure if this was made on a Monday, Friday, or just "close enough"? Well, the insulation was pieced together, and did not fit all that well.


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And of course we can't forget the right side below the window.........LOL


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Posted: 06/21/17 05:16pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

As a side note, how could this conglomeration possibly have any significance in the overall scheme of things? The easy solution is.......drum roll please......Using a digital camera to take a picture of something that provides you with a record of how the item was plumbed, wired, hooked up, or whatever have you.....Now u can take it apart and refer to the picture to re-assemble it.

Now, that was easy, wasn't it...LOL


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In case u don't know what this is, it is the 12v water pump - upper right, with the hose connections from pressurized water (city water), the hose from the pump into the water system, the hose from the fresh water tank to the pump, and the drain line to the outside to be able to empty the tank.

Oh, and the 2 lines going through the wall of the cabinet next to it - they go to the water heater, inside the cabinet. One is hot, the other is cold.

Cool, huh?

* This post was edited 06/21/17 05:27pm by fulltimin *

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Posted: 06/22/17 05:55am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Here's an interesting little fact of these rv's. This first pic is of the corner trim that Fleetwood used on these rv's at the time. The trim runs from top to bottom, is round, and impossible to take apart so that it could be re-used.

So, if u have one of these, and wanted to remove the corner trim, for whatever reason, planning to re-use it....forget it. Not gonna happen.


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This is what it looks like from the bottom. The corner trim is held in place by an aluminum angle bracket.


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The center of the aluminum bracket is a T shape. As u can see in the pics, once that trim is pressed in there, there is no way to get it back out without breaking it.


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The aluminum bracket is screwed on both sides to the framing, and then the trim pressed in. At that point, ur done. It makes a nice, easy, fast way to install it, but it is definitely a one way process.


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On to the entry step. The step has been a little shaky on this coach for a while, and I just didn't take the time to repair it. When pulling this apart, I found why it was a little springy.

Looking at the picture, the 4 round yellow circles are where the 4 bolts came up from the bottom that held the step on. There was a piece of plywood covering this frame, and the bolts came through the plywood as well. The 3 straight yellow "pins" are where screws, not bolts, came through the steel frame into the wood framing to help hold the step up. Needless to say, those screws were long gone.

The sides of this framework were held up by 3 screws on each side, and were screwed into the frame. When the step is out, and u put your weight on it, that puts a lot of pressure on the front side of the framing, and it eventually broke the screws. Interestingly enough, I don't think this is the original step anyway. I think originally it had an electric step, and at some point a prior owner rigged this up instead of fixing the electric one.

This coach has been through the mill with previous owners. More to come later on that.

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Ah, yes. A little clean up and the new framing will be able to go back in.

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