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fulltimin

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Posted: 06/20/17 04:45pm

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Next is a picture of the area above the drivers door. The brown area above the curtains was covered by the box that held the end of the drop down bunk over top of the driver/co-pilot seats. As u can see, it really doesn't look all that bad (the white area). The ceiling shows some evidence of water damage as the trim is loose.

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After pulling the paneling off of this area, this is what I saw. The area inside the rectangle completely disintegrated upon touching it. This was not the thin exterior plywood. This was a piece of 3/4" thick plywood, that was used for holding up the bed, so it needed to be more than just insulation glued in there.

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After poking around a little, we are now down to the outside plywood, with the 3/4" structural plywood gone...

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fulltimin

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Posted: 06/20/17 06:22pm

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And now for the lighter side..........

That's it. I'm done. I quit. I broke a nail.....Just kidding about the quitting.

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This is what happens when u drop a 16 pound piece of 3/4 inch plywood (yes, I weighed it) on your bare foot from about 12 inches above it. My buddy told me it looks like I tattooed the bar code from the plywood on my foot. Yes, it hurt. No, it didn't break it. Yes, it's better now. Lol

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Posted: 06/21/17 06:47am

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Ok, we've got another area of interest on the drivers side wall above and below the window in the living room. Both above and below the window, the glue, that is 34 years old, is mostly in tact. The pic shows the pink-ish area, which is the glue. I don't know what glue they used, but it held up well. As such, trying to get the insulation off of that plywood was a real pain. It was really stuck. The plywood beneath the glue was still in good shape.

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This next pic shows that beneath the living room window, and a mere foot away (no pun intended), from the steel frame that has rusted away, the glue and plywood are very much in tact. The area with the silver tape was the fresh water fill hole. The leak there is mainly responsible for the steel frame rust.

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This next pic is one of the left side of the window, with the awning screws above it, and about 1/2 way down the left side is the awning support. From the pic, u can see that nearly every screw above the window has some leakage, although not a great amount. The 4 support screws on the left side leaked, as is visible with the discoloration of the plywood and rusty screws.

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The right side of the same window, shows a different story. Above the window, almost none of the screws show water leakage. The 4 support arm screws down the side, show either leakage, or rust on the screws from the leak that was above the drivers door, and ran down. I am not completely sure which.

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Posted: 06/21/17 07:07am

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Moving on to the passenger side towards the back, is the fridge and another cabinet next to it. In this first pic, I put an arrow in the area that I will show later when pulling the ceiling apart.

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This next pic shows an enlarged version of the above pic, and the ceiling looks very good, as far as any water damage goes.

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Do not be fooled... Things are not always the way they seem.....

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Posted: 06/21/17 07:24am

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I am so glad my project is aluminum siding and frame after seeing this, lol.

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Posted: 06/21/17 07:52am

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Have you tried to see if you can take the sliding off without damaging it? If you can it sure would make it easier to do the rebuild. I don't know if they use any mechanical fasteners but gluing it back on should be doable too.

3M makes some wonderful adhesives;
3M Adhesives

I rebuilt a TT and after it was gutted the first thing I did was disassemble the sides.

Good luck and keep the pictures coming.

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fulltimin

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Posted: 06/21/17 01:13pm

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Thanks for the links. The TT rebuild looks great! [emoticon]

I will have to check out 3M adhesives. I have heard that they make some great stuff.

I think the fiberglass will come off ok. There is a row of pop rivets at the bottom, and also where it attaches at the front and rear caps. Not sure how the top of the sides are fastened yet. The fiberglass was just glued to the plywood, and then the plywood glued to the steel framing and blue board insulation.

Getting the remaining plywood off the fiberglass will be a chore, the way it looks.

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Posted: 06/21/17 01:23pm

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By the time I had gotten to this point - it became a no brainer. I just can't remodel 2/3 or 3/4 of an rv. It's just not gonna look right.

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SO, on I go to continue my demolition, with more surprises ahead....

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Posted: 06/21/17 01:25pm

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So, remember the ceiling over the bed and cabinet next to the fridge? We're about to get into it...LOL

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Posted: 06/21/17 01:35pm

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Before I continue, did u notice the white steel rod near the ceiling that ran from side to side between the wall cabinets? Yea, the one with the arrows pointing at it...

It is an expandable rod the we used to hang a blanket on. This coach has only one air conditioner, and when we got into very hot areas, by hanging the blanket from ceiling to floor, it would block off the bedroom and bathroom from circulating air.

That would help keep the front of the coach cooler, and who's going to spend much time in the bed or bath during the day. At night when it cooled off a little, we would open that up and cool off the bed and bath about an hour or so before bedtime. Something so little, can make a big difference.

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