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Posted: 06/22/17 02:53pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Next is a picture of the hand rail on the outside of the coach, right next to the door. Nothing spectacular about that.

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Next is the inside of that hand rail. Notice that they welded a steel bracket around the hand rail to attach it to. That's a good thing. Then because of how far that extended into the wall, the inside paneling was just glued to the steel frame around it, meaning no insulation, plus transferring cold and hot air thermally from outside to inside the coach. In fact, if u look, u can see the remnants of glue on the steel framing. The one good thing about this.....this was inside the cavity at the back of the fridge, so any heat or cold went into that cavity, instead of directly into the living quarters of the coach. Yay.....


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Posted: 06/22/17 03:13pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Next we have the current awning installed. If u look closely at the picture just above the yellow arrows, u can see there is a row of old holes, that were used to hold the original awning on. These holes have been sealed up with silicone (yuck). It really doesn't matter too much here, because the current awning is installed above this one, so no water ever gets to those old holes.


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The funny part of this is on the inside. This next pic shows how the awning was SUPPOSED to be attached. Looking at the yellow arrows pointing upwards, below the yellow line, you can see the remnants of plywood, that had been glued to the exterior plywood. This was a piece of plywood that was 1" thick and the awning was supposed to be screwed into that plywood.

Now, look above the line the to arrows pointing downward, and u will see where 1" blue board insulation was glued in. Notice all the holes up there? When they installed the awning....they missed the plywood and screwed into the insulation..... LOL. Gee, I wonder why that original awning isn't there any more? LOL. Slight factory oversight.


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Posted: 06/22/17 03:24pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Here is another factory installation .... oops. This pic with the yellow line with arrows going both ways is sitting on a 1.5" x 1.5" steel joist for the floor. The vent for the black water tank comes up right where the frame runs from side to side. The solution is to cut the joist off, weld in a short piece, then weld in a second piece to finish the run to the side of the floor frame.


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Posted: 06/22/17 03:31pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

So, it finally looks like we are actually getting somewhere. Check out this rear facing and front facing views inside the coach......


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Posted: 06/22/17 03:54pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

NOT SO FAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Remember this pic, where the steel framing was missing at the bottom?


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But wait,.... There's more........


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The right upper arrow shows where we knew steel was missing. The lower right arrow points to a floor joist that is supposed to run from side to side in the coach, and it obviously doesn't make it to the side on this side of the coach.

The left lower arrow points to another floor joist that is rusted off. The left upper arrow points to the frame that is supposed to be there and be welded to the missing piece from the upper right arrow.

And by the way, the white area inside the yellow rectangle, happens to be the inside of the door of the storage compartment, that is accessed from the outside............!!

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Posted: 06/22/17 04:07pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

This next pic is just to the left of the one above, and the left side is right where the wheel well starts.
As u can see, the circle shows daylight (hole) in the aluminum that is attached to the bottom of the floor joists.
The arrow points to more missing frame..........lol.

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Here is a wider view of the left side of the coach. All of the frame is not missing, but there are several feet of it that will have to be replaced.

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And here is another shot of the same area from a different angle. Like I said, there several pieces that will have to be replaced, and then it's all good........?....


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Ok, I apologize for the next pic. It is two pics combined into one, and looks bad, but u can get the idea of what I am trying to show.

The arrows show the only 4 places along the length of this side of the coach that has studs that run from floor to roof. The rest of the strength for the wall comes from the plywood being glued to the steel studs, and to the insulation.

By the way, between the extreme left arrow and the right arrow, is about 19 feet.!

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Posted: 06/22/17 05:18pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Now, remember when I said I think this coach has been through the mill in its lifetime?

Here's one that amuses me somewhat. In the following picture, u can see the outline of the ladder on the right side (in the pic, actual drivers side of the coach). If u look close in the 3 yellow circles on the right, there are 2 sets of screws, 4 screws each, total of 8 screws inside each yellow circle.

Now, on the left side circles, u can see that there is plywood that was fiberglassed or glued to the inside of the rear cap. U can also see that those pieces of plywood have screw holes in them. Originally, that ladder was behind the window. Apparently someone in this coaches past didn't like the ladder behind the window, and had it moved to the other side. The screws currently are only being held by the fiberglass and not by the plywood that the factory originally designed. No wonder the ladder seems a little shaky going up the steps.


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Posted: 06/22/17 05:26pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Here's another close up pic of the floor rust above.


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Posted: 06/23/17 01:48pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ok, moving on.

On many an rv, the trim at the top of the cabinets, and some countertops is just a little round piece of plastic. Upon dismantling this motorhome, it seems as though the manufacturer put the wall cabinets in, stapled the trim fast, and then put the roof on. Here is a pic of what it looks like on the back side. This was a single piece that stretched from the cabinets in the living room, through the kitchen and back into the bathroom. The only way to get this off, is either remove the cabinet, or cut it off with a utility knife.

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As u can see, this was on the top and front of the cabinet face that I pulled out of the living room. Not real visible in this photo, but better in next.

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