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									We considered having two 2" receivers welded to the back of our (previous) toy hauler frame a few years ago.  The plan was to mount a 2.5 x 8 platform to the two receivers to stow about 300 lbs. of additional gear.  Took the TH to a reputable welder in the local area well-known for doing quality mods/repairs to trailer frames and suspensions.  He didn't even bother looking under the toy hauler---just simply said it was not a good idea.  I can't remember his whole explanation as to why, but I do remember him mentioning excessive dynamic loading and frame stress. 
								
								
  						
								
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									My 2 bits and I have been doing it for 5 years now all over the country is I would never put that much weight on the back of my 5er what I Do  is carry my 220lb scooter on the front hitch/carrier and it works Awesome and you can SEE it,so anyway for you I would get a little lighter Bike and do the front hitch setup like you mentioned again just my 2 bits 
									
  
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									OP, guess I should have added to my first post that NO I have not carried one motorcycle on the back of my 34' 5er, I carried TWO. I did more than just weld the two receiver hitches to the bottom of my frame rails... I boxed the I beam with plates that were 2' long on the bottom and 3' long on the top on one side and the opposite on the other side... 3' on the bottom. I used 6' long receiver tubes and loaded the cycles from opposite ends so no way to lower one end making it the loading ramp. 
If you were wanting to do this to a TT I'd have some concerns about taking too much tongue weight off it, BUT a 5er has closer to 20 percent tongue weight so even taking 550 lbs off (like I did) will not make it unstable. 
									 
									 
									 
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									Ivylog wrote: OP, guess I should have added to my first post that NO I have not carried one motorcycle on the back of my 34' 5er, I carried TWO. I did more than just weld the two receiver hitches to the bottom of my frame rails... I boxed the I beam with plates that were 2' long on the bottom and 3' long on the top on one side and the opposite on the other side... 3' on the bottom. I used 6' long receiver tubes and loaded the cycles from opposite ends so no way to lower one end making it the loading ramp. 
If you were wanting to do this to a TT I'd have some concerns about taking too much tongue weight off it, BUT a 5er has closer to 20 percent tongue weight so even taking 550 lbs off (like I did) will not make it unstable.   
 
 
Ivylog has actually done this and seems happy with the result.  Do those of you who are advocating against doing this have first-hand experience in doing it? Have any of you mounted a motorcycle on the back of your trailer and had ill-effects from it? Has anyone mounted a motorcycle on the front of their truck and had ill-effects from that? 
									 
									 
									 
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									Go for it OP....good luck and safe travels. 
									 
									 
									 
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									topjimmy wrote: My 2 bits and I have been doing it for 5 years now all over the country is I would never put that much weight on the back of my 5er what I Do  is carry my 220lb scooter on the front hitch/carrier and it works Awesome and you can SEE it,so anyway for you I would get a little lighter Bike and do the front hitch setup like you mentioned again just my 2 bits   
 
Thanks for replying to my inquiry.  
 
Have you had any issues with overheating on the truck as a result of hauling the bike on the front?  Have to traveled through any steep terrain with that setup? Has that scooter covered up any lights? If so, what did you do about that? 
								
								
  						
								
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									Been asked that before and No I have not had any overheating problems in 90-100 degree weather up and down Big passes with my Duramax/Allison here in the West for 6 years but DO NOT travel with a cover on it or you will AND no it does not block my headlights with MY 150cc Scooter  but every Scooter/Bike is different and you can adjust the Scooter forward or back on the carrier to adjust for that if it is a problem and here is a Pic of my set up        http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/topjimmyz/media/new%20truck%20scooter_zps5yxvzute_2.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0 
									
  
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									I have been doing it for 12 years probably 70'000 miles .I think there is a photo on my profile from 05 with a Harley softail on a Everest 5th wheel .10in I beam  frame  
   Check out mightyhauler.com they say they can install on a 5th wheel.  
  of course carrying capacity and pin weight are very important. Don't exceed the axle rating and loaded the pin should be between 15 and 20 percent of GVW.  A good wheel chalk is important as well as a hefty tiedown system and a camera to keep an eye on it. 
								
								
  						
								
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									Here is how my motorcycle rides, minus the cover. It can be done but it does get costly to do it right. Extra steel in the frame. Third axle added to eliminate so much overhang and carry extra weight. There is a lot of weight cantilevered 10 feet or more behind the rear axle and rough roads will give it a workout. 
  
									 
									 
									 
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									TopJimmy, 
 
Thanks for that information. What brand and model scooter is that? 
								
								
  						
								
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