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klr650goldwing wrote:Ivylog has actually done this and seems happy with the result. Do those of you who are advocating against doing this have first-hand experience in doing it? Have any of you mounted a motorcycle on the back of your trailer and had ill-effects from it? Has anyone mounted a motorcycle on the front of their truck and had ill-effects from that? Given enough money, I'm sure mounting a motorcycle on the rear of any 5th wheel, safely, is possible. Given less than enough money, one's odds (possibility) of doing so safely will likely diminish accordingly.
Without frame data, engineering input, and a budget, all we have is simple conjecture.
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While you are trying to figure it out keep an eye out for a vehicle with a bicycle rack on the back connected to the receiver hitch. Follow it and look at how much the bikes jump up and down. Now imagine a lot more weight and a lot further back from the axle and you will get an idea of what everyone is trying to tell you.
If you do it then load everything up and have your wife pull the trailer for 10-15 mi and you follow in another vehicle and watch it. You might change your mind.
It's your trailer and you can do what you want but if that bike falls off and someone hits it you're in trouble.
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it is just you're basic Chinese Scooter as they are all the same ,this one is called a Roketa Sicily 150cc but they were also called MC-17-150, Schwinn Hope, Kait/JMstar Capri etc.. they are a small frame 150cc Scooter that go about 60MPH and pretty dang reliable and PLENTIFUL parts as they use the Most popular Motor in the world the GY6 and cheap to buy and a HOOT to ride and this is coming from a guy that has a 1200cc Ninjaklr650goldwing wrote:TopJimmy,
Thanks for that information. What brand and model scooter is that?
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Ivylog is right on. I've been carrying a DL650 for years on a similar setup. I bolted my 2 inch receiver hitches to the 8in I beams, used matching 2 inch extensions. The front one (where the front tire rides) is about 3 feet long, the rear one less. I used steel loading ramps from Harbor Freight for channels and loading ramps. It mounts and dismounys just by removing the pins. Tie the front down beneath the bikes suspension so the straps cannot bounce loose. I also tie the back end down using the swingarm. This subject keeps coming up over and over. One time an engineer with a sophisticated stress analysis program ran this scenario and it had no problems (max stress was 9000 psi). It does reduce your pin weight but I haven't noticed it on my 10000# 5th wheel.
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I have 3 two inch receivers on mine, professionally done. I have carried a 280 lb Honda 150 PCX for about 10,000 miles the last 3 years with no ill effects.
I have a rear view camera to keep an eye on it and check all the welds faithfully. I do not experience any of the bouncing that was mentioned. As far as towing and pin weight problems, it tows like the trailer is not even there. The exception is railroad tracts and bridges, I also keep my speed down and am not in any hurry.
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Hi All,
Not saying it can't or shouldn't be done, or if you throw a lot of money at it to can hopefully get done correctly, not even saying some frames can or can't handle it, but what I am saying is look at the Frame Failure thread that had nothing added to it. I now have a huge paperweight that I am paying faithfully for with out any certainty what may transpire....If you want to carry toys I agree with the memnber that mentioned to get a toy hauler, this is what they are "supposedly" made for.
Guess I'm just gun shy at this point....
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See pics of my fifth further down the page:
https://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/28437838/print/true.cfm
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What you will find here on RV.net, is folks will poopoo any idea that is different. Whether they have any experience or not, doesn't seem to matter.
Compare the weight of the bike and hitch to similar tongue weight of a trailer that some folks double tow. Think about how that compares. Would your fifth wheel be capable of handling a similar weight under double tow conditions?
I'm not going to dismiss the idea off hand.
When I was a kid, my dad rigged up a hitch to tow our motorcycle with the rear wheel down, and the front wheel in a saddle. It worked great. Can't back up of course, just like any other double tow. So your post got me thinking, and there are products available to do that. Here is just the first one that google served up:
https://www.tow-ster.com/home
Does that work behind a fifth wheel? Well, when you call them and ask, please post their reply. Thanks.
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Well, that would satisfy the weight issue. But, wouldn't it be considered a double-tow? Or a triple tow; not sure the difference. That would mean it can only happen in the western states. Right?
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klr650goldwing wrote:I'm thinking of having a receiver hitch welded to the 8 I-beams of our 5er. I'm thinking of two pieces of heavy duty square tubing welded at 90 degrees to the I-beams, spaced about 3 or 4 feet apart and welded to each beam. Then the receiver part of the hitch welded to both of the pieces of square tubing.
I'm hoping to haul a 388 lb. motorcycle on this hitch. Tell me what you think; pros and cons, or better ideas. Thanks.
After having read the entire thread (up to this point), I agree that using 2 receiver tubes is a =much= better idea. Personally, I'd also beef up the frame with a doubler/fishplate all the way to in =front= of the rear spring hangar, if not the equalizer, then 2-3 crosstubes to weld the receivers to. Yeah, probably overkill, but a whole lot easier on the frame. I also think that the extra weight back there won't be much of an issue with the pin; just make sure you stay within your total cargo capacity. If you find you have a handling issue, you might have to move cargo internally to help balance it.
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