jmramiller
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Wadcutter, you were right about trying to convince some people of the truth. Some get it, some don't. There are a few here who just don't.
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jmramiller wrote:Wadcutter, you were right about trying to convince some people of the truth. Some get it, some don't. There are a few here who just don't.
Yup, some don't get it. They just don't have the reading comprehension ability to understand what they read. Oh well, most reading this thread understand. It's obvious who didn't. And that's OK too. People like that keep my wife employed. She's a Special Ed teacher. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
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Dr. Albert Einstein (1879-1955) probably said it best with his quote of --
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
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JIMNLIN
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yeah, its quite evident some are to stupid to read/interpet and find guidence from your/our state dot/weight inforce division on regs in question.
The thread is a stickis about actual fed weight law rules wich FMCSA provides per part 658/571/573. Also NHTSA/FMZSS regs to consider with the same parts enters into weight regs per 49 CFRs. So far some refuse to admit they are revelent and bash the messenger.
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jmramiller
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JIMNLIN wrote:yeah, its quite evident some are to stupid to read/interpet and find guidence from your/our state dot/weight inforce division on regs in question.
The thread is a stickis about actual fed weight law rules wich FMCSA provides per part 658/571/573. Also NHTSA/FMZSS regs to consider with the same parts enters into weight regs per 49 CFRs. So far some refuse to admit they are revelent and bash the messenger.
That would be "too" stupid not "to" stupid, “interpret” not “interpet”, “guidance” not guidence”, “which” not “wich”, “enforce” not “inforce”, “relevant” not “revelent”.
I'm not sure what a "stickis" is, unless you are talking about a "sticky".
How do you expect to properly "interpet" the "guidence" you receive with this level (lack of) communication skills?
Perhaps the state of OK should be more focused on public education than highway weight enforcement.
So in response "to" stupid, I believe you have proven Dr. Albert Einstein correct.
The messenger should only be bashed when he screws up the message. In this case all bashing is clearly justified.
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JIMNLIN
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bash me if it pleases you but it still won't change those regs in question. bash on basher.
Arguing about regs can go on and on and becomes opinion which reverts to posts like the last few (personel attacks) which has nothing to do with answering your question door tag GAWR have in weight enforcement for our class trucks. Those regs I gave in above posts are for our size trucks (above 10k and below 10k). The door placard GVWR/GAWR is there per 567.4 which is found on DOT/FMZSS/NHTSA regs. Definitions of GAWR/GVWR are given by FMCSA 571.3 regs.
I suggest reading those regs for your benifit and if you don't understand how your state enforces just make a call or better yet a personel visit with a real dot officer from your state. I didn't make those regs or even interpet them.
This is my last post so take your best shot
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How abouts if you two Jims would agree to disagree on the subject, until it can be proven one way or the other?
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It has been a while since I read this thread. Glad to see it is a "sticky" or whatever you want to call it. To me it is "same old s#@^ different day". For pupeperson, if you go to the Goodyear site and look for the pdf file labeled loadinflation, you will find out that the load rating of the tire as indicated on the tire is not a real limit. You can increase that load limit by increasing pressure and decreasing speed. Wheels need to be good for the increase in pressure.
For all of those folks that want the OEM ratings to be law, how about going out and loading your pickup truck (that is the class of truck we are dealing with, right?) to a weight significantly over the door sticker. Then, go find a Law Enforcement Officer or any other person with the legal right to write citations of illegal activity and have them weigh your vehicle and or vehicle and trailer and see if they will give you a ticket for being over OEM ratings. Then scan that ticket and post it here. If you are ticketed for being over OEM, nothing else such as over what you are licensed for, just tell the judge that you were doing a public service to prove to all that the door sticker is a law, as far as the ratings are concerned.
Get ticketed. That will shut us up.
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Hook47 said: "For pupeperson, if you go to the Goodyear site and look for the pdf file labeled loadinflation, you will find out that the load rating of the tire as indicated on the tire is not a real limit. You can increase that load limit by increasing pressure and decreasing speed."
Yes. That is correct, to a point. I believe it is unreasonable to list loads that cannot be carried at highway speeds. I also think it would be difficult to explain those precise nuances to most folks, including those who might give you a ticket for exceeding the weight rating molded on the tire sidewall. Increasing pressures above the listed maximum is normally limited to 5psi and 5mph and applies predominantly to ST rated tires
In any case, that is why I gave both the size tire and the specific inflation pressure posted by Goodyear, which exactly comes to 5400 lbs. times 2= 10,800 lbs which is what AAM rates the 11.5 inch axles under Dodges and GM light trucks for -- 10,800 lbs. You could actually go down in size to a 255/70R22.5 and up in load range and inflate it to 115 psi and have exactly the same load rating -- 5400 lbs.
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