DOtte
Alexandria,Mn
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2008 Ford SC dually, 34 ft Cedar Creek, 70 gals fuel, fully loaded, driver and passenger,22,990 just under CGVW
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Dawizman
Cold Lake, Alberta
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NewRV5ver wrote:When it comes to truck and trailer weights I am kind of clueless. I always felt my truck and trailer combo was at the max, but not knowing my actual weight left me wondering?
While on vacation I found a Cat Certified Truck Scale so I weighed the combo to get the actual weight of both truck and trailer.
The trailer is a 2008 Jayco Eagle RLTS 291 model with 4000 generator on board.
The TV is a 2007 Dodge Ram 2500 Quad Cab, 5.9 Cummings, Auto with 3.73 Axle ratio and air bags.
I had a half of tank of diesel fuel and my wife and I weighed in with the truck. The holding tanks were also empty of liquid.
After weighing in here are the results!
Steer-axle = 4500 lb
Drive-axle = 6420 lb
Trailer-axle = 9380 lb
Gross Weight = 20300 lb
What does all this mean in terms of being over the weight limits?
The ratings on your truck are:
GAWR Front: 5200lbs
GAWR Rear: 6000lbs
GVWR: 9000lbs
GCWR: 20000lbs
So you would be exceeding the GVWR by about 1900lbs, and the rear axle is overloaded by about 420lbs. Your total weight however is only over by 300lbs. That unit would definitely be a candidate for a 3500.
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DW-gray
Lompoc, CA
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Dawizman wrote:NewRV5ver wrote:When it comes to truck and trailer weights I am kind of clueless. I always felt my truck and trailer combo was at the max, but not knowing my actual weight left me wondering?
While on vacation I found a Cat Certified Truck Scale so I weighed the combo to get the actual weight of both truck and trailer.
The trailer is a 2008 Jayco Eagle RLTS 291 model with 4000 generator on board.
The TV is a 2007 Dodge Ram 2500 Quad Cab, 5.9 Cummings, Auto with 3.73 Axle ratio and air bags.
I had a half of tank of diesel fuel and my wife and I weighed in with the truck. The holding tanks were also empty of liquid.
After weighing in here are the results!
Steer-axle = 4500 lb
Drive-axle = 6420 lb
Trailer-axle = 9380 lb
Gross Weight = 20300 lb
What does all this mean in terms of being over the weight limits?
The ratings on your truck are:
GAWR Front: 5200lbs
GAWR Rear: 6000lbs
GVWR: 9000lbs
GCWR: 20000lbs
So you would be exceeding the GVWR by about 1900lbs, and the rear axle is overloaded by about 420lbs. Your total weight however is only over by 300lbs. That unit would definitely be a candidate for a 3500.
For anyone to know their real weight, the truck must be weighed twice. For those who don't understand and for the newbies, visit the following website:
FifthWheelSt.com
Dave Gray
RV Safety Educator & Consultant
08 Dodge Ram 3500 4X4, Dually, 6.7L Diesel, 09 Heartland Cyclone 4012
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Beefcake92563
Murrieta, CA
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Truck: 2006 Ford F250 (with upgraded Ford F350 spring set and hardware and larger wheels & tires have F350 weight ratings)
Trailer: 2006 Montana Fifth Wheel, model 3500RL
Truck Weight Ratings as F250:
FAWR=5,600lbs, RAWR=6,100lbs, GVWR=10,000, CGVWR=22,500
Truck Weight Ratings as F350:
FAWR=6,0000lbs, RAWR=7,000lbs, GVWR=11,500, CGVWR=23,500
Truck Actual weights, curb weight - No cargo or passengers but with fluids topped off:
FAW=4800, RAW=3320, GVW=8140 (yup, 20# off when you add them up)
Truck Actual weights, with cargo, gear, hitch, DW and trailer:
FAW= 4880, RAW=6280, GVW=11,160, CGVWR=22,040
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Trailer Weight Ratings:
FAWR=6,000lbs, RAWR=6,000 GTWR=14,040lbs PW=2,040 calculated 15%
Trailer Actual Weights:
FAW=5560, RAW=5320, GTW=13,450, PW= 2,570 (actual 19%)
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Note: as an F250 it was overweight at rear axle & gross weight, but upgrading to F350 solved the problem. Since the truck is ONLY for personal use, my truck does NOT have to be RECERTIFIED (new VIN, higher truck fees). This is DOT legal (I checked with two months of research).
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Coyotecprs
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Truck: 2005 Dodge Ram 2500
Trailer: 2007 Jayco Jay Flight 30.5 BHS
Truck & Trailer weight:
FAW = 4060, RAW=4500, Trailer Axles = 6700
The trailer was empty except for some water in the FW tank and some in the black. Just picked it up from the dealer. I did not take the time to disconnect and weight seperately.
2005 Dodge Ram 2500, 5.7 Hemi
2007 Jayco Jay Flight 30.5 BHS
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gannetpeak1
Buckeye, AZ
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I drove to Love's today and used their Cat scale. I have a 2002 Dodge 3500 (dually) and a 2007 Hitch Hiker II LS 32.5 FKSBG.
My truck weights with a full fuel tank, no tools, no tailgate and me in the truck are:
steer axle 4540
drive axle 2820
gross wt. 7460
My weights with trailer, B&W companion hitch, two batteries, two full propane bottles, no water, spare tire, no food or clothing, no lawnchairs,no grill, no tools, no jack.
steer axle 9960
trailer axle 9740
gross wt. 19700
I was very surprised at the gross weight since Nuwa posts an empty weight of 10,554. My trailer weight is 12,240 loaded as described above. Never used a Cat scale before today, so I assume I was positioned properly.
2002 Dodge Ram 3500 CTD DRW,DTT, FASS, Edge Comp, Gauges
2007 Hitch Hiker II 32.5 FKSBG
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sirdrakejr
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Quote: "
My weights with trailer, B&W companion hitch, two batteries, two full propane bottles, no water, spare tire, no food or clothing, no lawnchairs,no grill, no tools, no jack.
steer axle 9960
trailer axle 9740
gross wt. 19700"
Something about that does not look right. You should have new numbers for the truck's drive and steer axles AFTER the trailer is loaded. THAT is what you should be interested in.
Frank
2011 Palomino Maverick 1000SLLB on a 2004 Dodge Quadcab CTD Ram3500 SRW long bed equipped with Timbren springs, Stable Load bump stops, Rickson 19.5" wheels/"G" range tires and a Helwig "Big Wig" rear anti sway bar.
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gannetpeak1
Buckeye, AZ
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sirdrakejr wrote:Quote: "
My weights with trailer, B&W companion hitch, two batteries, two full propane bottles, no water, spare tire, no food or clothing, no lawnchairs,no grill, no tools, no jack.
steer axle 9960
trailer axle 9740
gross wt. 19700"
Something about that does not look right. You should have new numbers for the truck's drive and steer axles AFTER the trailer is loaded. THAT is what you should be interested in.
Frank
Yes, I agree with you. I first weighed my truck and the CAT receipt showed steer axle, drive axle and gross weight. The next day I reweighed with trailer and the receipt showed as above. I thought I had my axles positioned properly, but I will re-weigh in a week or two.
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sirdrakejr
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I think the "steer axle" number is the total weight for the truck on a single scale. Which would be the weight with the trailer resting on the hitch. Now you just need to know how that is split up . ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile")
My guess would be about 4600 for the steer axle and the remainder ( 5360 ) on the drive axle. But with a DRW Dodge I would expect that you will be under the GVWR AND the GCWR.
Frank
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n7bsn
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Tow:
F350 V10, Super-cab/long-bed, tool-box, hitch, us, fuel, etc.=== 8500 lbs
Trailer:
Arctic Fox 29-5E, fuel, water, food, gear================== 12500 lbs
Combined:=========================================== 21100 lbs
Pin Weight: ========================================= 2200 lbs
GVWR for the Truck is 12,000 lbs, tow rating is 16,000 lbs
2008 F350SD V10 with an 2012 Arctic Fox 29-5E
When someone tells you to buy the same rig they own, listen, they might be right. When they tell you to buy a different rig then they own, really pay attention, they probably know something you don't.
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