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StingrayL82 wrote: What a long weekend. I picked up the engine from my engine builder yesterday.
When it comes to automotive, there isn't much that looks as good as a new engine. "And" a clear path for installation.
Now the anticipation builds...
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Ballenxj wrote: When it comes to automotive, there isn't much that looks as good as a new engine. "And" a clear path for installation.
Now the anticipation builds...
LoadFlite and driveshafts are going in today, hopefully. After inspecting the wiring, it’s obvious it needs to be “unboogered”....I’ll take a picture and show you what I mean. I’m amazed the rig didn’t catch fire.
I’m also going to service the Dana 70. My inclination is to run 75W140, it’s what the Dodge dealership used to put in the Dana 70 of my ‘01 Ram 3500...thoughts?
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StingrayL82 wrote:
LoadFlite and driveshafts are going in today, hopefully. After inspecting the wiring, it’s obvious it needs to be “unboogered”....I’ll take a picture and show you what I mean. I’m amazed the rig didn’t catch fire.
I’m also going to service the Dana 70. My inclination is to run 75W140, it’s what the Dodge dealership used to put in the Dana 70 of my ‘01 Ram 3500...thoughts?
While you're inspecting the wiring, look and see what/if you have for chassis to engine ground. If I recall correctly, Chrysler was remiss about that in those years. If there isn't one, you might consider putting one in while it's easy, just to insure a good solid ground. I've read reports of people doing that on the older Dodges and suddenly electrical components that hadn't been working started working again.
About the gear lube, I'm no expert on that, but I do know that when Idaho Drive Train installed an Eaton Tru-Trak in my Dodge van they used synthetic. I then asked them if any further maintenance was required, and they said nope, just drive it. Might be worth looking in to?
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Ballenxj wrote: While you're inspecting the wiring, look and see what/if you have for chassis to engine ground. If I recall correctly, Chrysler was remiss about that in those years. If there isn't one, you might consider putting one in while it's easy, just to insure a good solid ground. I've read reports of people doing that on the older Dodges and suddenly electrical components that hadn't been working started working again.
You probably heard it, at least partially, from me ... in my rants a few hundred pages back it this thread. It feels like 90 percent of the vehicle electrical problems I've encountered are ground problems. (In reality, 40-50 percent ... with the rest 'creative' rewiring by previous owners, age, corrosion, and loose connections.)
You're definitely correct about an engine-to-body ground strap. If it didn't have an OEM strap, it doesn't hurt at all to add one. I sometimes also add a body-to-chassis (frame) strap.
I definitely prefer the bare braided metal ground straps for this purpose. Their purpose and existence is visibly evident. They're also more resistant to stress cracking and loosened connections arising from vibration.
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Ballenxj wrote: StingrayL82 wrote: I’m also going to service the Dana 70. My inclination is to run 75W140, it’s what the Dodge dealership used to put in the Dana 70 of my ‘01 Ram 3500...thoughts? About the gear lube, I'm no expert on that, but I do know that when Idaho Drive Train installed an Eaton Tru-Trak in my Dodge van they used synthetic. I then asked them if any further maintenance was required, and they said nope, just drive it. Might be worth looking in to?
I agree with Ballenxj ... ask an established driveline expert.
A lot of more knowledgeable people here, in interior Alaska, run 75W90 in their drive axles. Especially if they're going to use the vehicles regularly in the severely subzero winter temperatures that are routine up here. (Our summer highs rarely get above 80 degrees F.)
So, I'd say 75W140 if most of your use is south of Minneapolis and especially in southwest deserts. North of Minneapolis, I'd go 75W90.
I'm a crusty old coot, so I'm still trying to 'adjust' to synthetics. Everybody seems to be using it, so maybe it's time 'to get with the times.' (I've even heard some post-1975 music I like ... )
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Ballenxj wrote: While you're inspecting the wiring, look and see what/if you have for chassis to engine ground. If I recall correctly, Chrysler was remiss about that in those years. If there isn't one, you might consider putting one in while it's easy, just to insure a good solid ground. I've read reports of people doing that on the older Dodges and suddenly electrical components that hadn't been working started working again.
About the gear lube, I'm no expert on that, but I do know that when Idaho Drive Train installed an Eaton Tru-Trak in my Dodge van they used synthetic. I then asked them if any further maintenance was required, and they said nope, just drive it. Might be worth looking in to?
The only grounds on my rig come from the original Mopar battery negative cable, which has a 4 AWG (I think) wire running to the engine block and a 10 AWG (again, I think) wire running to the firewall. I like grounds, so I'll be adding a few more.
I'll check the synthetic out and see what is has to offer.
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Griff in Fairbanks wrote: Ballenxj wrote: While you're inspecting the wiring, look and see what/if you have for chassis to engine ground. If I recall correctly, Chrysler was remiss about that in those years. If there isn't one, you might consider putting one in while it's easy, just to insure a good solid ground. I've read reports of people doing that on the older Dodges and suddenly electrical components that hadn't been working started working again.
You probably heard it, at least partially, from me ... in my rants a few hundred pages back it this thread. It feels like 90 percent of the vehicle electrical problems I've encountered are ground problems. (In reality, 40-50 percent ... with the rest 'creative' rewiring by previous owners, age, corrosion, and loose connections.)
You're definitely correct about an engine-to-body ground strap. If it didn't have an OEM strap, it doesn't hurt at all to add one. I sometimes also add a body-to-chassis (frame) strap.
I definitely prefer the bare braided metal ground straps for this purpose. Their purpose and existence is visibly evident. They're also more resistant to stress cracking and loosened connections arising from vibration.
I love the braided ground straps. I learned about the benefits of grounding from the Jeep Forum electrical guru, John Strenk.
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In Fords, with Dana axles, we're going to 75W-140 full synthetic. Walmart has the best price. Just be sure you get the FULL, since they carry it along with Dino and Blend.
On dino oil, a rather short change interval per Ford. On full syn, considered lubed for life unless submerged in water.
Early syn had some stability problems but with those resolved now, it's the way to go. Did our E450 with 9500-lb Dana, and our little Aerostar with 4.56 limited slip. All good.
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j-d wrote: In Fords, with Dana axles, we're going to 75W-140 full synthetic. Walmart has the best price. Just be sure you get the FULL, since they carry it along with Dino and Blend.
On dino oil, a rather short change interval per Ford. On full syn, considered lubed for life unless submerged in water.
Early syn had some stability problems but with those resolved now, it's the way to go. Did our E450 with 9500-lb Dana, and our little Aerostar with 4.56 limited slip. All good.
Mobile One offers 75W90 synthetic gear lube ... if you live in 'not-so-warm' areas.
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j-d wrote: In Fords, with Dana axles, we're going to 75W-140 full synthetic. Walmart has the best price. Just be sure you get the FULL, since they carry it along with Dino and Blend.
On dino oil, a rather short change interval per Ford. On full syn, considered lubed for life unless submerged in water.
Early syn had some stability problems but with those resolved now, it's the way to go. Did our E450 with 9500-lb Dana, and our little Aerostar with 4.56 limited slip. All good.
JD, thanks for the info. I'll go with the 75W140 Synthetic then.
If I could cuss on this forum, you'd be reading a lot of four letter words. I feel like I got absolutely nothing accomplished today. The plan was to install the transmission and driveshafts, however the wiring harness was worse than what I had anticipated.
At some point, the Ammeter Fusible Link melted and took a couple of the windshield wiper motor wires with it. I'm pretty sure that the Instrument Cluster Printed Circuit Board was the culprit. One of the first things I did, when I bought the Monaco, was replace the circuit board and fusible link.
The ignition coil wire, the white one that goes into the Electronic Ignition module, had melted a bit too, exposing the wires. To top it off, the previous owner stripped away some of the insulation of the Back Up Switch wire and wrapped a red wire around it, leaving this Frankenstein'd mess exposed. That red wire was used as the trigger wire to the Battery Isolation Solenoid. I don't even know if the Back Up Switch is a valid ignition hot source. That too is now fixed.
Solder and heat shrink were definitely my best friends today. One thing I can thank my Dad for is learning how to solder. He was an electronic engineer for Westinghouse.
So now I have a wiring harness that is back together, re-wrapped and looks clean. I'll take a pic of the finished product tomorrow. I finished this up at 10:30 tonight, so there's just not enough light to make the pic show well.
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