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PapawFor2

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Posted: 06/25/04 04:28pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

[quote][/quote] Ok so someones peronal experiance of a $700 gas savings per year. Take into acount 10K miles so two oil changes and that is probably only a $600 difference. I was paying $23 to get my gassers oil changed, I just todat payed $79 to get my PSD's oil changed. Add in and oil and fuel filter every other year (at 15K vice 30K for a gasser), $550 difference.[/quote] If one wants to get real "anal" here, I supposed one could factor in that diesels don't require fillups as often, thus there's less wear & tear driving to get fill ups annually. I change my own oil. My gas LOF'S were performed at 2500 - 3000 mile intervals with a fuel filter at 25000 miles. My diesel LOF is performed at 4500 - 5000 mile intervals with a fuel filter at 15000 mile intervals. Should I take it to a Dodge dealership, LOF's on the Cummins is about $54. I suspect LOF's on 8.1's & V10's are a bit more than your quote of $23 since they hold more oil than a "typical" gasser. I didn't factor in the cost of an oil change in my spreadsheet as I see the cost as a trade off since the interval is longer for diesel. I do suspect fuel/oil/air filters are more expensive for Duramax & Powerstrokes than what they cost for a Cummins. I happened to purchase mine used with 18,000 miles on it (including 5er hitch) for low blue book. I was leaning more towards diesel closer to retirement but it was exactly the truck I was looking for in terms of color and everything else so I bought it. Had I not stumbled into it, I'd likely have bought a 6.0 HD2500 GM.

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why is it your obsession to play up diesel engines like it is some kind of religion?

I had a 454 DRW 3500 pickup that ran great but was a pig on gas. I still have my 34 ft Coachmen with Chevy P30 chassis and 454 with Gale Banks Stage III kit that also runs great but is also a pig on gas.
I just don't agree with people that say in a tow vehicle forum that the 5.4 V8 will tow 20,000 lb GCW better than the 7.3 PSD or that the Chevy 6.0 has more power than the 8.1 in the 2004 Suburban.
If there was a full size SUV that had a gas engine with the same towing performance as a diesel I would buy it . I don't care what the HP is on paper , I go by what happens when I am on I-95 south of DC on my way to Florida with a heavy load and I step on the go pedal.
By the way the Excursion is my wifes truck.[emoticon]


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Today in San Antonio

Gas $1.70/gallon

Diesel $1.65/gallon

Happy Trails...


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Today here in NJ reg gas $1.829,diesel $1.579 .

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Posted: 06/25/04 06:37pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Southern AZ Unleaded $1.97 Diesel $1.71

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Today in Chilliwack BC (Canada) gas is 85.9 liter (quart) and diesel is 72.9 or about 60 cents/gal cheaper


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Edmonton: gas 88.5/liter, diesel 66.5/liter. That must be close to $1/gal difference [emoticon]

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Port Orchard Washington Gas 2.099 Diesel 2.299

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Meridian MS, regular unleaded 179.9, diesel 147.9.

My last oil and filter change cost me $27 and it's done at 7500 mile intervals vs 3-4000 mile intervals for a gasser. Anyone who agrees to pay $70+ for an oil change kinda deserves to get screwed in my opinion.

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To give you an idea of the cost difference here, I pulled into the gas station this morning just as my "low fuel" warning came on meaning I had about 50 miles worth of fuel left. I filled the truck plus two 5 gal containers and it still came to less than it used to cost me to fill my 1500HD.

Bert

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