ticat900

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have not used any as of this posting but looking and the READYBRAKE surge brake systems looks to be the simplest and cheapest of the works out there
all mechanical except the electronic monitor
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gypsypainter

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Pulsar,
Thanks for the incredible overview! We are not "techies" and your synopsis is relatively easy to understand. I'm printing this and taking it to my MH mechanic.
Thanks again!
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pjcnlv

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greilandiii wrote: I had the M&G system installed at a dealer listed on M&G's web site in Riverdale, GA. I was there about 4 hours with Motor home and Suburban. It took one man about 20 minutes to put on the motor home part and another about 3 hours to do the Suburban. I did have the break away option installed.
Can you tell me if your Suburban has Hydraulic or Vacum brake assist?
I am considering the M&G unit for a Cadillac Escalade.
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Quote: I am considering the M&G unit for a Cadillac Escalade. I didn't think it could be flat towed. Is it modified?
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pjcnlv

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The Escalade can be towed with a lube pump.
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pulsar

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pjcnlv,
You would probably get better response to your question if you posted it in a new thread. Most of the regulars don't come into this thread very often; the thread was meant to give an overview of the different systems rather than provide specific answers about a particular system.
Tom
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ProfRickMTJ

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I use a Kar Kaddy car dolly. Hook it to the coach like any other trailer. Drive the car up the ramps, throw the tiedowns over the 2 tires and winch down (no extra tools needed), attach safety chains, clip the ramp up, and go. Takes a couple of minutes and works with any car. The reverse is equally simple.
It uses a surge breaking system which, I believe, makes it legal in all states. Whenever the dolly pushes on the coach, either because I use the breaks or going down hill using engine breaking, the dolly applies its breaks. The harder it tries to press, the more the breaks are applied which reduces the load. That puts a minimal load on my coach breaks. I made NO modifications to my coach other than a normal trailer hitch with 4 wire electricals. I can, optionally add remote stop lights.
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teofff

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Pulsar:
Any review of the Tow-V-Air system????
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pulsar

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teofff wrote: Pulsar:
Any review of the Tow-V-Air system????
The short answer to your question is no.
By the way, the actual name of the system is Tow-V-Aire. The company is located in Lake Placid, FL and has the following toll free number (888) 464-1105.
Among the criteria I had (have) for doing a review were (are): 1) Being able to discuss the system with someone who uses it; 2) Talking to a knowledgeable representative of the company; 3) A feeling that I understand how the system works.
I did talk to the owner of the company, but have never been able to talk to anyone who uses the system.
I will share with you the reservation I have.
The Tow-V-Aire website lists how the system doesn’t work (no mercury switches, no accelerometers, no pendulums, no surge, etc) but doesn’t tell how it does work. I think it reads the coach’s brake lights circuit and activates when the coach’s brake lights are activated. But that raises issues for a system that doesn’t claim to be proportional. If I am interpreting it correctly, the toad's brakes activate every time the coach's brakes activate and always at the same amount of force. If that force is for a "hard" stop, then the toad's brakes are being greatly over used in normal stopping. If that force is set for normal braking, then there is not enough braking (in my opinion) for a "hard" stop.
The system uses an air cylindar attached between the brake petal and the mount attached below the driver's seat. An air compressor sits to the side with an air hose attached to the cylindar. The system receives its electrical power from the coach - thus wires run between the coach and the toad. These wires provide electricity and a reading of the coach's brake lights.
There is a break-away system, but,if I recall correctly, there was no monitoring system available when I was investigating the Tow-V-Aire.
Tom
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JohnieL

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We just bought a new Saturn Vue Hybrid. We have a 2003 30ft Jamboree. It's rated to tow 5000 lbs and has a 500 lb tongue weight,and came with the electric cable to hook to the dinghy. The Saturn dry weight is 3408 lbs. A close friend of our son has as store/shop for off-road & 4-wheel drive vehicles. He has offered to install a tow bar so we can tow with a 4 wheels on the ground. And a braking system as well. So any suggestions on what ones to get would be greatly appreciated. I don't need fancy, just easy to use and dependable.
I can't do that kind of work myself anymore. Too old and a heart patient as well. (And I sure do miss it).
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