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Posted: 06/23/23 09:08am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

bob_nestor wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

FWIW, I towed a swivel-wheel trailer behind our fifth wheel through and in Virginia, and never garnered a second look. But that was about 10-12 years ago. As was said, sometimes you just roll the dice and take your chances. What's life without a little gamble, now and then. [emoticon]


Ah, but a swivel wheel "trailer" is a platform considered to be an extension of the tow vehicle, not a trailer in the traditional sense - at least in most States. Here in Texas they're not required to be licensed or registered. I towed mine thru a number of States (not on the East Coast though), and never had an issue or got stopped by law enforcement.


I understand the premise but never seen it in writing from any official site. Do you have any links to this assertion?


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"I understand the premise but never seen it in writing from any official site. Do you have any links to this assertion?"

As do I.
Do you think that could be the device the second trailer sits on when over-the-road truckers use? I have seen these towed with the second trailer missing.

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The swivel wheel company that I bought mine were very specific about not claiming it "NOT" to be a trailer. They stated that some states considered them trailers, and it was the responsibility of the owner of the trailer to find out the particulars for their case.


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Horsedoc wrote:

"I understand the premise but never seen it in writing from any official site. Do you have any links to this assertion?"

As do I.
Do you think that could be the device the second trailer sits on when over-the-road truckers use? I have seen these towed with the second trailer missing.


Bet if you checked you would find the fright-hauler pulling the dolly behind a trailer is a)running routes/states that allow CMV to tow doubles, and b)the CDL states driver has passed test to tow double/triples. BYW, the endorsement is for doubles and triples. Likely because some state might call the converter dolly a trailer.
And while doing the grape/grapefruit comparisons;


fj12ryder wrote:

The swivel wheel company that I bought mine were very specific about not claiming it "NOT" to be a trailer. They stated that some states considered them trailers, and it was the responsibility of the owner of the trailer to find out the particulars for their case.


Last company I was leased to had what we called a stinger. It worked kinda like a swivel wheel trailer, in that it pined solid to RGN. (Your SWT has load put on it, and pivots up/down so does not lift 5th. wheel. Stinger, OTOH pined solid, no movement between it and trailer. Had no load deck, but was adjusted to take some weight off trailer axles. Less like trailer than the swivel wheel). If the stinger was in place the driver had to have double/triple endorsement

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Give it a shot! Highly doubt they will impound it. Most likely go to next exit and find a place to separate.

I have been towing my 5er and Motorcycle trailer since 2017 thru two 100% illegal states twice a year since then. Not even a strange look. I save over $1,000 in transport fees by doing this every year. I have more than paid for my Kendon MC trailer and have $$$ in my pocket to deal with whatever may happen along the way.

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Despite triple towing being illegal in most if not all of the states on your route,


I've never seen it legal to triple tow (tow three trailers) in ANY state. or province.


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StonedPanther wrote:

Despite triple towing being illegal in most if not all of the states on your route,


I've never seen it legal to triple tow (tow three trailers) in ANY state. or province.


"Tripple Towing" is NOT three trailers. Some call towing two trailers Double towing or Triple Towing, both are the same.

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Hopefully the OP has his tow dolly back home and through the evil state of VA or whichever one it was that started this discussion….
If he’s still listening though, drop the tire pressures way down in the dolly so it’s not a bouncy ball back there.

* This post was edited 06/27/23 11:05am by an administrator/moderator *


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Towing doubles is two trailers.
Towing three trailers is triple towing.
There is a huge difference.
Best to get your facts straight before making a rookie mistake and use the term "am I legal to tow triples" when asking a size and weights officer the legal question.
The officer will say its not legal to tow triples. If stopped one trailer will have to be left behind.
This happens at times in my state in the summer months with all the COE lakes. Some pull a 5th wheel trailer/a ski boat trailer/a trailer with PWCs and get caught.
Some have left the 5th wheel trailer in a WM parking lot...then return and pull it to their camp spot.

Ask the right question to get right answer for your two or three trailer towing combination.


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Remember this is an RV Forum NOT a Truckers Forum.

I said "Some call towing two trailers Double towing or Triple Towing, both are the same."


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What Is Triple Towing?
Triple towing refers to towing two vehicles behind the vehicle you’re driving.

So, for example, you might be driving a truck and towing your 5th wheel behind it while also towing your boat behind the 5th wheel!

Another example would be a motorhome towing a car (or “toad”), with the car hauling a trailer containing a four-wheeler, jet skis, mopeds, or other recreational “toys”.

Is Triple Towing Legal?
It’s legal in SOME states but not everywhere, and it’s very important to understand where it’s legal and where it’s not before you decide to tow in this manner.

So bottom line it depends what the specific topic is!!!

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