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Posted: 06/22/23 06:54am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

FWIW, I towed a swivel-wheel trailer behind our fifth wheel through and in Virginia, and never garnered a second look. But that was about 10-12 years ago. As was said, sometimes you just roll the dice and take your chances. What's life without a little gamble, now and then. [emoticon]


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Posted: 06/22/23 10:17am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I can't tell you if it's legal or not for double/triple towing, but having towed one empty for only a few miles behind my pickup, I surely wouldn't want to do on an Interstate or other main highway, if you've ever seen one being towed empty, you probably wouldn't want to either, it bounced and swayed terribly, the tires were Off the ground as much (or more) than they were on it.


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Tyler0215 wrote:

It's not illegal till you get caught. Then the dolly will be loaded on a tow truck, and held until you pay tow a storage charges.
Also a low empty dolly behind a large trailer will be practically invisible to brain dead drivers following you. An accident waiting to happen.


Well the first part is reasonable. The second part, roflmao. Who cares? By that logic , every motorcycle and small car is an accident waiting to happen. Don’t be paranoid.


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bukhrn wrote:

I can't tell you if it's legal or not for double/triple towing, but having towed one empty for only a few miles behind my pickup, I surely wouldn't want to do on an Interstate or other main highway, if you've ever seen one being towed empty, you probably wouldn't want to either, it bounced and swayed terribly, the tires were Off the ground as much (or more) than they were on it.


Hence the previous tire pressure comment. Although it seems weight and tire pressures being a very simple concept with an almost wholly linear relationship are a mystery to most (and to you) (and apparently to the NHTSA who mandated WAY too much pressure for the tpms thresholds on 3/4 ton trucks…lol).

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I would say it's a trailer and therefore not legal up the east coast. I'm in VA and have looked into double towing a lot. The DMV doesn't really know, you need to talk to Commercial Motor Vehicle Officers. I have specifically asked several in VA and they all said absolytely not in VA.


I think the main issue is that it's likely a state trooper or cmv officer would actually do a traffic stop where a county/city/town officer/deputy would not. Most of the regs I have seen about tow dollies seems to be about when actually towing a car and not when unloaded.

Code of Virginia 46.2-1116. "Vehicles having more than one trailer, etc., attached thereto; exceptions.

Except as provided in this section and § 46.2-1117, no motor vehicle shall be driven on a highway while drawing or having attached thereto more than one motor vehicle, trailer, or semitrailer unless such vehicle is being operated under a special permit from the Commissioner of Highways. "

Code of Virginia 46.2-1119. "Tow dolly and converter gear.

No axle-like device, commonly called a "tow dolly," used to support the front or rear wheels of a passenger vehicle or pick-up or panel truck for towing purposes, and no axle-like device, commonly called "converter gear," on which is mounted a fifth wheel used to convert a semitrailer to a full trailer, shall be considered vehicles. Either such device, when used on the public highways, shall be equipped with a safety chain or chains of a strength to restrain the device and vehicle being towed, should the connection fail. In addition, either device, when moved on the public highway, shall be equipped with rear marker lights or reflectors when towed without a load. When a tow dolly or converter gear is used to tow a vehicle, the towed vehicle must comply with all requirements of law pertaining to towed vehicles."

Clear as mud isn't it? Looks like a "tow dolly" is not actually considered a trailer but IANAL.....

Several sites say that there is no state on the east coast that allows multiple trailers, but have seen others that say that Maryland, NC and SC allow it if under 65 foot long.


Seems pretty clear to me. I'm not seeing anything that suggests it's not a trailer. Even if it's not a trailer, you can't tow more than 1 motor vheicle, trailer or semitrailer, so it's irrelevant what you call it.

Unless it looks dangerous, unlikely they will bother you but once they do, you may as well pay the ticket as driving back to fight it in person will likely cost far more than the ticket.


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Having towed non rv trailers for a living I've found its best to contact a state troop command post and ask those that do the enforcing how they enforce your questions. Do not assume the way you interpret a code is the way it will be enforced in that state. Do it wrong can be a expensive gamble. Do not assume just because your towing a rv trailer you will never be stopped for a violation.

And of course when talking with a dot officer/DMV person/etc use the correct terminology. Your asking a double tow...not a triple tow. Refer to a triple tow then of course the answer will be "no triple towing allowed".

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* This post was edited 06/22/23 12:00pm by JIMNLIN *


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bukhrn wrote:

I can't tell you if it's legal or not for double/triple towing, but having towed one empty for only a few miles behind my pickup, I surely wouldn't want to do on an Interstate or other main highway, if you've ever seen one being towed empty, you probably wouldn't want to either, it bounced and swayed terribly, the tires were Off the ground as much (or more) than they were on it.


X2 and I suspect if a patrol officer saw one bouncing all over the road behind a trailer you will probably be stopped for unsafe towing.

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According to my buddy a Ga State trooper. It is legal here to tow a trailer behind a fifth wheel.


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4x4ord wrote:

You could just tow it. Probably not legal ….. you probably won’t get stopped. If you do get pulled over you might be fined and or have to unhook the dolly.


X2. My opinion is if the trailer isn’t bouncing all over and if you are driving responsibly it’s unlikely you would run into any trouble.


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fj12ryder wrote:

FWIW, I towed a swivel-wheel trailer behind our fifth wheel through and in Virginia, and never garnered a second look. But that was about 10-12 years ago. As was said, sometimes you just roll the dice and take your chances. What's life without a little gamble, now and then. [emoticon]


Ah, but a swivel wheel "trailer" is a platform considered to be an extension of the tow vehicle, not a trailer in the traditional sense - at least in most States. Here in Texas they're not required to be licensed or registered. I towed mine thru a number of States (not on the East Coast though), and never had an issue or got stopped by law enforcement.

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