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Posted: 04/18/23 12:38am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Quote....We are taking trailer to phoenix this summer for two months for medical care and one AC won’t cut it.

If it has two aircon units it almost certainly is 50amp.

If you don't have a buddy who is good with electric, it may be worth spending a couple hundred to pay an electrician to take a look and explain it to you...in front of the salesman.

Hoping the dealer will figure it out and give you a straight answer is unrealistic.


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Another way to tell if it's really a 30 or 50 is to post a photo of the INLET
50 amp inlets have 3 blades (And a 4th contact you might not notice)


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Per the OP: "During walk through it was connected to shore power and we did indeed turn on AC. But AC also worked while camping but presumably off solar. It was near perfect out so AC ran very very little. "

Your AC will not run off solar. Very few high end coaches have the battery capacity and inverters to run an AC. Yours isn't one of them. Even if it was, it would run off batteries, not solar. Your solar on your unit is only enough to keep the batteries topped off in storage. If you were running AC then you were plugged in. Not trying to be crass, but you might want to do a little homework on what works in an RV on 12 v and what works on shore power.

After reading through this whole thread I would guess you tripped a breaker and don't know where it is. Even if wired incorrectly it would't work running ac at the dealership and then also while camping for a while.

A few clarifying questions; How many AC units do you have? Do you have residential refrigerator? Does it work? Do any/all of your outlets work? How many batteries? What is the state of those batteries? Have you checked all fuse panels/boxes (many rv's have more than one). Is there any chance you were running the AC and microwave at the same time? Is it possible you tripped the campground loop breaker and your coach has no problems after all? I did that once running ac and microwave at a state park - it didn't trip anything in my coach or at the pedestal, but tripped the breaker at the control for my loop.

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way2roll wrote:

Per the OP: "During walk through it was connected to shore power and we did indeed turn on AC. But AC also worked while camping but presumably off solar. It was near perfect out so AC ran very very little. "

Your AC will not run off solar. Very few high end coaches have the battery capacity and inverters to run an AC. Yours isn't one of them. Even if it was, it would run off batteries, not solar. Your solar on your unit is only enough to keep the batteries topped off in storage. If you were running AC then you were plugged in. Not trying to be crass, but you might want to do a little homework on what works in an RV on 12 v and what works on shore power.

After reading through this whole thread I would guess you tripped a breaker and don't know where it is. Even if wired incorrectly it would't work running ac at the dealership and then also while camping for a while.

A few clarifying questions; How many AC units do you have? Do you have residential refrigerator? Does it work? Do any/all of your outlets work? How many batteries? What is the state of those batteries? Have you checked all fuse panels/boxes (many rv's have more than one). Is there any chance you were running the AC and microwave at the same time? Is it possible you tripped the campground loop breaker and your coach has no problems after all? I did that once running ac and microwave at a state park - it didn't trip anything in my coach or at the pedestal, but tripped the breaker at the control for my loop.


I only have one AC. Goal was to install second AC before phoenix trip.
I do not know if I have a residential refrigerator but it does work ( did during day not night)
All outlets work, just fireplace never worked.
One battery, when I purchased it two weeks ago brand new obviously.
I checked the breakers in the one location I was told there are breakers and none were tripped. Did not diagnose fuses in the field.
We never used the microwave at all. Definitely not AC and microwave.
I’m not sure about tripping power on the loop, I did see others near us using power.

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wa8yxm wrote:

Another way to tell if it's really a 30 or 50 is to post a photo of the INLET
50 amp inlets have 3 blades (And a 4th contact you might not notice)


I don’t know how to post photos on here but it has three blades and the 4th contact. I googled 30 versus 50 amp inlet and it definitely appears 50.

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Post your city, Nevada is pretty big. Maybe someone on this forum who knows RV wiring lives nearby. If you lived in my area, I know I would be willing to.


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OP Your posts indicate that you are in over your head which is not unusual in the RV world for someone new. Go to the dealer and take pictures on the cord, CB panel etc. Click on Open Roads Forum at the top, find the picture posting thread and post the pics, it's easy. There are unanswered questions, etc. Again suggest you get independent help as the dealer is jerking you around and given what you've posted they are either idots, clueless or something worse, which is also not unusual.

Question: Is the second A/C location wired and/or do you have a plan? I live in the Phoenix area and TRUST ME you do not want to spend 2 summer months here w/o fully adequate and operational A/Cs along with everything else.

It sounds like a used modified RV. IF SO I'd absolute want to know who, how and when the mods were done were they done with good quality. There is NO electrical code requirements or inspections for a RV unlike a house.

Most likely the dealer will not take the RV back, did you buy "AS-IS"? No dealer warranty?

Factory warranty invalid for modifications. Dealers are typically paid less for factory warranty work and can take months. Your work might be done by September.

I'm posting this not to be critical of you but rather suggest you become very involved, knowledgable and get on top of the issues.


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I'll also suggest you don't have any live in RV solar. Instead you have a small panel to maintain the batteries while in storage. The salesmans lips are moving "solar" and the new buyer lights light up and hes hooked. But whatever you have it will not run an A/C. Even a very small 10A A/C would need 110A from the solar and battery to run.

What is the wattage of the solar panels and what solar controller? Include this in your posts is not pics.

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Bobbo wrote:

Post your city, Nevada is pretty big. Maybe someone on this forum who knows RV wiring lives nearby. If you lived in my area, I know I would be willing to.


I’m in Henderson NV

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OP Your posts indicate that you are in over your head which is not unusual in the RV world for someone new. Go to the dealer and take pictures on the cord, CB panel etc. Click on Open Roads Forum at the top, find the picture posting thread and post the pics, it's easy. There are unanswered questions, etc. Again suggest you get independent help as the dealer is jerking you around and given what you've posted they are either idots, clueless or something worse, which is also not unusual.

Question: Is the second A/C location wired and/or do you have a plan? I live in the Phoenix area and TRUST ME you do not want to spend 2 summer months here w/o fully adequate and operational A/Cs along with everything else.

It sounds like a used modified RV. IF SO I'd absolute want to know who, how and when the mods were done were they done with good quality. There is NO electrical code requirements or inspections for a RV unlike a house.

Most likely the dealer will not take the RV back, did you buy "AS-IS"? No dealer warranty?

Factory warranty invalid for modifications. Dealers are typically paid less for factory warranty work and can take months. Your work might be done by September.

I'm posting this not to be critical of you but rather suggest you become very involved, knowledgable and get on top of the issues.



Sir, there is no doubt I am in over my head. And unfortunately I don’t have a lot of time and more important issues between work and the kids. If I can’t get the trailer dialed in soon I’ll have to do an Air Bnb or Ronald McDonald house and we’d rather not do that.

I will post pictures in the next couple days.

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