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rltorpey

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Posted: 04/12/20 08:11pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

CPAP machines have two filters

One is foam to filter gross particulates

An inner one white in color is HEPA 2 grade which will block 100%;virus.


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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:


I stated that a CPAP filters incoming air for the CPAP patient.

Really? It must have been on a different thread.

I'm not sure why you brought up CPAP. I haven't seen anyone walking around wearing a CPAP rig. But if you're going to discuss CPAP you should clarify that it's only the input that's filtered in a home CPAP rig and this makes them very dangerous to be around if the person receiving CPAP has COVID 19, which is often the situation for first responders and hospital workers. It could also be dangerous if you're living with someone who has sleep apnea and is quarantined at home with COVID 19 so I think it's an important point to make.

If you're using a CPAP rig with HEPA filtering on the input to protect yourself against contracting COVID 19 it should be pretty effective but there are more portable solutions available. Kind of hard to use CPAP while you're traveling around.

"If I have symptoms of the coronavirus, will using CPAP spread the virus to others?

Current evidence suggests that the virus that causes COVID-19 spreads between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet). It is transmitted through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes. However, there is some concern that using CPAP could spread the virus through the exhalation port, which allows carbon dioxide to escape from your mask. This port also may release smaller virus-containing particles as an “aerosol,” which can remain suspended in the air for a few hours. It’s possible that your bedpartner could inhale these virus particles. Therefore, it is important to sleep alone by isolating yourself in a separate bedroom. You can continue to use CPAP while sleeping in this recovery room."


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Posted: 04/13/20 05:02am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

It is estimated that there are a minimum of 400 qualified research institutes worldwide working on this pathogen. They are experimenting even on the genome to make it more vulnerable. This is what Biohazard level 5 labs are for.

So that no one takes this statement the wrong way; SARS-COV-2, virus currently circulating can be isolated and cultured in Biosafety Level 3 and samples from patients can be tested in Biosafety Level 2 (same as most blood samples your Dr would take from you).

Source: CDC

* This post was edited 04/13/20 06:50am by BCSnob *

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Modification to genomes are level 5 only when working with potentially lethal pathogens. This is "germ warfare" territory and the work is only a small part of what is being done.

I could not believe the amount of money being spent on military pathogens some 50 years ago. I had and have no interest in visiting a level 5 lab but the precautions are astounding. Like three multi complex barriers for airborne pathogens.

As far as cousins SARS and MERS are concerned there was never enough pressure to develop vaccines. With the -19 variant Covid is suddenly similar to the WW II Manhattan project.

The Russians have an incredible knowledge base of military grade viral pathogens.

There are probably dozens of high potential immunization candidates out there.

The problem is proofing the serums.

Offer it to non violent criminals as an inducement to reduce their sentence? Who knows but aside from humanitarian appreciation there is a lot of money at stake.

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Posted: 04/13/20 10:16am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Phase 1 clinical trials with healthy volunteers have already started.

NIH clinical trial of investigational vaccine for COVID-19 begins

INOVIO Initiates Phase 1 Clinical Trial ........ID-19 Vaccine and Plans First Dose Today

With more phase 1 trials announced to start in the next few months. No need to use captive human subjects.


“Proofing the serums” will be done using serological tests (antibody tests) developed to recognize the same antibodies produced by infected patients. The same antibodies in serum collected from recovered patients that is now being tested for infusion into sick patients.

* This post was edited 04/13/20 10:30am by BCSnob *

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Results on the trials are months and/or years away.

There are six substances under investigation for treatment of existing cases.

I want a home testing kit for antibody response.

* This post was edited 04/13/20 02:48pm by pianotuna *


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FDA: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: Serological Tests

FDA wrote:

Since the FDA issued the policy, over 70 test developers have notified the agency that they have serological tests available for use. However, some firms are falsely claiming that their serological tests are FDA approved or authorized, or falsely claiming that they can diagnose COVID-19. The FDA will take appropriate action against firms making false claims or marketing tests that are not accurate and reliable.


Johns Hopkins: Serology-based tests for COVID-19

This website lists approved antibody tests

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John's Hopkins is my preferred source of reliable information.

"Oh shoot I just self tested positive but we"re out of toilet paper, bread, milk,and gin. Just one more itsy bitsy list of errands won"t hurt."

I am not going to stake my health on someone's lack of self control.

Read today's WHO headline

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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

Modification to genomes are level 5 only when working with potentially lethal pathogens. This is "germ warfare" territory and the work is only a small part of what is being done.
Where did you get level 5 from, Hollywood? The CDC only lists 4 Biosafety levels: CDC: Recognizing the Biosafety Levels

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There used to be 5. But I supposed you would get the idea. Negative air pressure. Auto sealing three containment levels.


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Again, document your posts containing technical information. Opinions are not appropriate regarding this serious topic! (Mod)

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Posted: 04/15/20 05:33am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

There used to be 5. But I supposed you would get the idea. Negative air pressure. Auto sealing three containment levels.


LOL! I seriously doubt BCSnob is "lost" on this issue. As far as I'm aware he, along with Dr. Doug, are the most eminently qualified members to discuss it. RV.net is lucky to have both of them.

* This post was edited 04/15/20 06:59am by an administrator/moderator *


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