MEXICOWANDERER

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There is grumbling about the inevitability of green card border crossers needing proof of immunization ultimately leading to whether a vaccine has been approved by the FDA. It isn't like a Sinovac immunized person can do a recap with another type. There is idle chatter about sending the vials to Guatemala or Honduras. As far as what the government admits to the vaccines arrived free of charge.
Working in the USA underwrites many incomes and shopping in the USA is a privilege. Lately US CUSTOMS has been clogging secondary inspection for whatever reason I don't know. Entry takes 1 and a half to 2 hours for non green card holders, including citizens.
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BCSnob

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The cdc is keeping track of the number of reported cases of covid due to the variants of concern. The prevalence of UK variant (based upon the number of reported cases) is highest in Fl and second highest in MI. The rate per 100,000 (I calculated using state population estimates) are ~6/100,000 in MI and ~5/100,000 in Fl. Btw, thus variant is more transmissible than the original variant.
Hopefully it doesn’t take hold in the spring break crowds.
CDC: Variant Cases in the US
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MEXICOWANDERER

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Has there been a firmer percentage established associated with "Herd Immunity"? It seems as though younger folk are dissing the mask initiative the most and then compounding the problem by attending mass get-togethers. Young people tend to have contact with family, including the aged.
The misconception that "under the age of 30 means virtual immunity" is a tough counterpoint to argue with youngsters. They go around quoting things like "97.2% of my age group do not get seriously ill".
"Hold your nose, drink a cola (or beer) or bite into a hamburger or taco. That's what Long Haulers are facing". Although I have no idea of the percentage of youth that face after effects of the virus.
If Herd Immunity occurs with 80% recovery or immunized we have a way to go. That still leaves many millions of potential incubators for mutations.
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jetboater454

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Other half had both the Moderna shots,I have had 1 of the Pfizer so far,other in a few weeks. She says at her point of jabs they also had the J&J single shots. But I was wondering if anyone heard with maybe needing boosters later if it matters what company you use. We now have all 3 within 5 miles of us.
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BCSnob

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Boosters will be new vaccines (currently under development) not the ones already available. The boosters will be designed to provide better protection against the new variants.
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jetboater454

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Thanks BC. But now I wonder if 1 booster manufacture will work with all 3,or maybe 4 vacs out now. From what I understand,which is not much,is that the J&J one shot is a totally different make up than the other two.
Were the polio,mumps,measles vacs made by just one company each?
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BCSnob

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The answer to your question will need to be addressed in the clinical trials for the boosters. Since those are designed and partially paid for by the manufacturer I suspect they will only test their booster with their original vaccine. The fda will approve the boosters based upon the data from the clinical trials.
The design of a clinical trial for a booster with all other vaccines would be very large to test all possible combinations: vaccine A & booster, vaccine A & placebo, vaccine B & booster, vaccine B & placebo, etc with each group having 10,000s of participants.
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Deb and Ed M

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BCSnob wrote: The cdc is keeping track of the number of reported cases of covid due to the variants of concern. The prevalence of UK variant (based upon the number of reported cases) is highest in Fl and second highest in MI. The rate per 100,000 (I calculated using state population estimates) are ~6/100,000 in MI and ~5/100,000 in Fl. Btw, thus variant is more transmissible than the original variant.
Hopefully it doesn’t take hold in the spring break crowds.
CDC: Variant Cases in the US
I can promise the Spring Breakers are having a great time and ignoring everything the CDC ever said :-( (Miami has declared a State of Emergency over Spring Break. As the median age for positive covid tests in FL goes younger and younger - I can pretty much guarantee that the Spring Breakers will be bringing home a fresh case of the UK Variant.
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BCSnob

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Miami Co has one of the highest new case rates in the country.
DAILY NEW CASES39.2 PER 100K
INFECTION RATE 0.95
POSITIVE TEST RATE9.5%
ICU CAPACITY USED 82%
Source: Covidactnow
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MEXICOWANDERER

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Nasal Spray study
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