GeoBoy
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Any of the big 3 in a gasoline dually 4x4 will handle that camper without any problems.
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jaycocreek
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Quote:As well, I’m uncertain regarding gas or diesel, and srw vs dually. We plan to boondock a fair bit and would like to be able to access off the road type campsites ... but nothing too crazy!
Living in Canada,you definitely need a DRW..You will never find a SRW pickup with enough payload to be legal with the NL 10-2 packed for a long trip.
As for gas vs diesel with a truck camper,a gas does just fine with 4500# in the back..That diesel engine isn't for hauling a measly 4500# it was meant for heavy loads like big fifth wheels etc..JMHO
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Here's a diesel dually. Just not a 4wd.
You can never have too much truck.
I'd love to have the new Ford 7.3L gas motor.
I just wouldn't want the truck that it comes in. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/wink.gif "wink")
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jaycocreek wrote: . . . As for gas vs diesel with a truck camper,a gas does just fine with 4500# in the back..That diesel engine isn't for hauling a measly 4500# it was meant for heavy loads like big fifth wheels etc..JMHO I get the point you're trying to make. However, in terms of raw engine load, a decent-sized hard-side camper is still a challenge, even for a big-block diesel. I say that based on mpg's---mpg's more or less define the load on the engine. Our Cummins gets 17-18 highway empty. It gets approx. 11 mpg pulling a 12,000 lb. 5th wheel. It gets approx. 12-13 hauling our camper (3,500-4,000 lbs. loaded). Based on these numbers I'd say our Cummins is still workin' a tad hard hauling the camper. IMO, it's not so much the weight of the camper that's the issue, it's the wind coefficient. A camper is very inefficient aerodynamically. All the flat surfaces on the lower rear (each side), behind the cab, plus the jacks, not to mention the big cabover, creates a *lot* of wind drag.
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JD5150
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Northern Lite 10-2 riding in the clouds ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
37 inch tires with a 6 inch lift on a SRW 4x4.
Video was taken a week ago at SEMA by the President of Northern Lite Keith Donkin. Not sure if this is his own personal one or his company.
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+1 1T DRW Diesel
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jaycocreek
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Quote:It gets approx. 12-13 hauling our camper (3,500-4,000 lbs. loaded).
I get 13-14 unloaded and 10-11 loaded with the same weight you mentioned with a 460 Ford..Now if I could put that 6-speed or 10-speed transmission behind the old 460,it would work far less..
I won't argue a diesel has more power and better gas mileage but I will note that diesel engines is not needed with a meager truck camper and a modern gas engine with a modern transmission..My 460 does a great jog with 36-4000 pounds in the back,lots of compression for down hill and plenty of power for up hill...
With the speed limits as they are,a diesel has no edge in power with a modern gas engine..They both will go over the top of Idaho mountains at the same speed carrying a modest truck camper..Now throw in a big 5er and the edge definitely goes do the diesel with all the weight..
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TCjeff, you probably can get by with a gasoline SRW.
The question is do you want to get by or have plenty of truck. I think get by means watch how much you are carrying including how much water you have and how full your holding tanks are, and watch how much other items you carry.
You’ll definitely feel the Rockies and any steep mountains with the gasoline trucks. It’s hard to say how well the 7.3 will work since it isn’t released. However, it sounds like you aren’t going to pull anything and a gasoline truck might work fine. Diesels have a big advantage at elevation since they have a turbo.
When carrying the TC, the biggest concern of gasoline is the lessor range. At the same time, gasoline is readily available at every service station.
If you are looking new, I’d seriously consider a 4x4, CC, DRW in either Chevy, RAM, or Ford with the largest gasoline engine of each. 4x4 in case you need it, CC for the extra storage or people ability, and DRW to carry more weight. I don’t think the Ford 7.3 is out yet and I don’t know if the Chevy 6.7 is. I’d wait if you can to drive those before committing to a smaller engine if you go gasoline.
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jaycocreek
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Quote:TCjeff, you probably can get by with a gasoline SRW.
With all the talk about Canada and pulling over truck campers and weighing them,there isn't a 3500 SRW series truck with enough payload to be legal there,loaded for a long trip...
Heck,my F-350 DRW would be over GVWR with a NL 10-2 truck camper loaded ready to camp..
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jaycocreek, sorry your DRW is so weak. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/grin.gif "grin") Any way, that’s why I said, OP would have to limit himself if he did a SRW.
Fwiw, sticker payload of SRWs can be around 4400 lbs. Who knows how he optioned the TC.
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