BradW
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larkyblast wrote:What has been really helpful here, is that pretty much no one uses the GVWR that is posted inside the door, and that the weight on each axle is far more important.
IHMO, most DWR owners do go by the GVWR and most SWR owners go by the tire/axle rating. Been both, done both. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile")
I never had an issue hauling our 1996 4,000 lb Lance on an srw truck for 10 years and 80,000 miles until I also tried towing a 7,500 lb car hauler trailer on a 2' extended hitch. Tried that once and did not like the results, bought a DWR the following year. Night and day difference.
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larkyblast
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Great discussion everyone. I did not realise about the load rules in BC, I have driven through there many times with my existing camper, and never been stopped or had any problems. I see guys towing two trailers in Alberta all the time, seems sketchy.
Towpro, thanks for the links, these were the exact ones I was using! I was coming to same numbers and conclusions but my stumbling block was that when I applied those to the campers I was looking at nothing added up.
Basically, if I still want to haul my bigger trailer (~6500lbs) with camper, I have to get a Northstar Liberty out of Montana since it does not extend past the hitch and I can keep my tongue weight down by not adding extension. Or, I have to give up taking the camper and the big trailer places and get a camper that puts me right on the edge of weight.
This whole ordeal gets less fun the more I look at it.
I wish our good old '78 had a bit more comfort for winter camping and a bathroom and electric jacks....
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noteven wrote:Anyone know if BC’s “door sticker” regs have been tested in court vs the Act?
My Cirrus 820 has a very specific list of “lies” on the data sheet.
The liers aren’t very smart because it weighs what the sheet says when you scale it, loaded per the data sheet.
For the door sticker police: do you think every Kenworth you see hauling a big oversize load on a 12 axle+ trailer with pilot cars and etc under a $$$$$$$$ permit has a door sticker rating of 487,000 lbs?
How do you like your Cirrus 820? Do you carry it on a SRW truck?
The big stumbling block for me is the weight, black water tank (want a casette, and seating configuration (prefer the layout of 720). The big attraction is the Alde, dual prop tanks, aesthetic, windows.
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Kayteg1
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Funny part, I did drive to BC having small backhoe on my flatbed and nobody ever check the weight.
But I took ferry directly to Victoria.
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noteven
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larkyblast wrote:noteven wrote:Anyone know if BC’s “door sticker” regs have been tested in court vs the Act?
My Cirrus 820 has a very specific list of “lies” on the data sheet.
The liers aren’t very smart because it weighs what the sheet says when you scale it, loaded per the data sheet.
For the door sticker police: do you think every Kenworth you see hauling a big oversize load on a 12 axle+ trailer with pilot cars and etc under a $$$$$$$$ permit has a door sticker rating of 487,000 lbs?
How do you like your Cirrus 820? Do you carry it on a SRW truck?
The big stumbling block for me is the weight, black water tank (want a casette, and seating configuration (prefer the layout of 720). The big attraction is the Alde, dual prop tanks, aesthetic, windows.
I like it a lot. I had it on a SRW 8’ bed Dodge diesel 3500 pickup. I am currently setting up a F350 SRW 4x4 gasohol cab and chassis with aluminum flatbed. It is a bit narrower than a white box design, easier to see past. I plan to build storage boxes on the deck under the camper wings for small generator as well as across the deck under the overhead will be straight through large storage box. The interior is a welcome change from typical RV designs. There are some very thoughtful elements in the design. Whoever designed the A/C unit never listened to it . It’s loud. But a Honda 2000i will run it. The Alde system is great except if you like 200 liter showers. I don’t. It is very quiet. It has Auto night temp setback. I’ve slept in it at -15c. I tested the heating this winter interior was -26C on a -26C day. In 2 hours it was +18C. The radiant heating warms all the materials inside so you don’t need long sleeves to touch the table. It has removable belly panels to access tanks and valves if service is needed. The Zamp solar equipment works well. I clean the acrylic windows with Plexus aircraft window cleaner same as my motorcycle screen and helmet visors. Keep them out of the bush and cactus they can scratch. They do not radiate cold. Seating could be improved by sloping the cushion foam if you do not use the dinette for a child bed. The frame and wall structure has no wood to rot or delaminate. The roof is strong and solid. The rear step and bumper is handy as can be and is up off the ground for good departure angle clearance. Mine has the tried and proven SeeLevel monitor system (made in Edmonton) but I think newest models have some kind of screen driven system not from an oilfield instrumentation company (SeeLevel).
Aerodynamics are good.
Main “drawback” so far is every where you go people want to approach you about “what kind of camper is that?”
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noteven, thank you!! Have you weighed your camper? How did you like it on your dodge? The new flat deck set up sounds amazing. I would love that.
I can. not. decide.
We do not camp at rv parks or with power ever. We mostly winter camp. We drive a lot on forest service gravel roads.
I want the propane and batteries to last for 3 days at -20 without having to run a generator. I don't want all the windows to ice over or have drafts.
I want to tow the sled trailer with my camper on (just a flat deck aluminum, weighs very little).
I think I could compromise on the weight thing if I could get the price way down. I also wish the seating were different, I prefer the corner diners with laguna table.
Well you can't have it all in a TC, that's for sure!
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Kayteg1
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larkyblast wrote:
I want the propane and batteries to last for 3 days at -20 without having to run a generator. I don't want all the windows to ice over or have drafts.
Would you be interested in investing in my North Pole ostrich farm venture?
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Kayteg1 wrote:larkyblast wrote:
I want the propane and batteries to last for 3 days at -20 without having to run a generator. I don't want all the windows to ice over or have drafts.
Would you be interested in investing in my North Pole ostrich farm venture?
Ha Ha, sounds crazy but we can do it easily with a single tank of propane and no battery in our current 1978 camper with a gravity furnace. We use solar/battery lights, but the windows are single pane and drafty and the cabover and floors are freezing. What is bothering me is the stupid forced air furnace that come in all the new campers except Cirrus. My understanding is that the Alde uses very little power. Propane doesn't bother us so much if we have two tanks.
I guess I've gone too long in our simple rig.
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Kayteg1 wrote:larkyblast wrote:
I want the propane and batteries to last for 3 days at -20 without having to run a generator. I don't want all the windows to ice over or have drafts.
Would you be interested in investing in my North Pole ostrich farm venture?
Kayteg, now that's funny!! Good one!
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Larky, you can haul a Cirrus no problem on your truck. They don't look like the lightest, but they're sure lighter than the big pig AF, Host, Lance options.
I think they're also the best looking campers out there, inside and out.
The radiant heat is a big deal for cold camping. I'm sure it doesn't use more propane than a forced air heater. How does it do if your running dry (extreme cold, no water on board) I wonder?
I wouldn't let the truck stop you from getting a bigger Cirrus. Couple upgrades to the truck and she'll haul it great.
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