babock

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mountainkowboy wrote:
The 192 was designed to be towed by SUV's and mid-size trucks. People that own them report camping weights around 4,600lbs or so, which is well within the abilities for these class vehicles. They do not require a 1/2 ton truck that's rated to tow twice that weight. It's no different than an F350 towing a 38' 16K trailer behind it. If your not comfortable towing close to your vehicles ratings that's fine...but quite making it sound like it isn't safe to use the trailer as it is designed. Out of curiosity, what do you plan on towing it with?
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mountainkowboy wrote: The 192 was designed to be towed by SUV's and mid-size trucks. People that own them report camping weights around 4,600lbs or so, which is well within the abilities for these class vehicles. They do not require a 1/2 ton truck that's rated to tow twice that weight. It's no different than an F350 towing a 38' 16K trailer behind it. If your not comfortable towing close to your vehicles ratings that's fine...but quite making it sound like it isn't safe to use the trailer as it is designed.
babock wrote: Out of curiosity, what do you plan on towing it with?
In an earlier post back on Page 2 mountainkowboy confidently indicated his 2011 Ford Ranger would easily tow a 192RBS. It appears to have the same basic engine / transmission / axle configuration as my 1998 4.0L V6 SOHC Ford Explorer with which I tried to tow an RVision TrailCruiser hybrid that averaged ~ 4000 lbs loaded & ready to camp. After 2 weekend trips I wasn't comfortable at all with this truck towing the trailer while also transporting my family so I upgraded to a 1/2 ton Silverado - problem solved. To each his / her own but having gone through this myself I'm now firmly entrenched with the 1/2 ton crowd.
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babock wrote: Out of curiosity, what do you plan on towing it with?
For local and weekend stuff I will use my Ranger. When we go on long trips it will be behind an F250 with a Harley in the bed.
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SoundGuy wrote: It appears to have the same basic engine / transmission / axle configuration as my 1998 4.0L V6 SOHC Ford Explorer with which I tried to tow an RVision TrailCruiser hybrid that averaged ~ 4000 lbs loaded & ready to camp. After 2 weekend trips I wasn't comfortable at all with this truck towing the trailer while also transporting my family so I upgraded to a 1/2 ton Silverado - problem solved. To each his / her own but having gone through this myself I'm now firmly entrenched with the 1/2 ton crowd. ![smile [emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif)
Actually the 1998 Explorer was rated with the 4.0 OHV was rated for 5,160lb max tow and a GCRW of 9,500lbs with the right gear ratio. The DOHC 4.0 was rated for a max of 5,640 and 10,000, again with the right axle ratio. Your comparing a mommy wagon to a truck, the Explorer was designed to deliver kids to school and activities, while the Ranger was designed to be a truck. My truck is setup with the tow package and I'll be at 82% of capacity with a 4,700lb trailer behind it. I've driven class A trucks with 60,000lb trailers behind them...I'll be just fine.
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SoundGuy wrote: It appears to have the same basic engine / transmission / axle configuration as my 1998 4.0L V6 SOHC Ford Explorer with which I tried to tow an RVision TrailCruiser hybrid that averaged ~ 4000 lbs loaded & ready to camp. After 2 weekend trips I wasn't comfortable at all with this truck towing the trailer while also transporting my family so I upgraded to a 1/2 ton Silverado - problem solved. To each his / her own but having gone through this myself I'm now firmly entrenched with the 1/2 ton crowd. ![smile [emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif)
mountainkowboy wrote: Actually the 1998 Explorer was rated with the 4.0 OHV was rated for 5,160lb max tow and a GCRW of 9,500lbs with the right gear ratio. The DOHC 4.0 was rated for a max of 5,640 and 10,000, again with the right axle ratio.
Actually the 4.0L V6 Ford Explorer was a SOHC. Glad you're so confident in yours, I wouldn't be.
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SoundGuy wrote:
Actually the 4.0L V6 Ford Explorer was a SOHC.
No the 1998 Explorer had a 4.0 pushrod V6, 4.0 DOHC V6, or 4.9 V8, at least here in the U.S.A., which is where I'm at.
Quote: Glad you're so confident in yours, I wouldn't be. ![wink [emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/wink.gif)
You've made it PERFECTLY CLEAR...over, and over, and over that you're not comfortable towing near your vehicles abilities. I am, and have done so for many decades RVing and working.
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SoundGuy wrote: Actually the 4.0L V6 Ford Explorer was a SOHC.
mountainkowboy wrote: No the 1998 Explorer had a 4.0 pushrod V6, 4.0 DOHC V6, or 4.9 V8, at least here in the U.S.A., which is where I'm at.
Beating a dead horse but here you go - 1998 4.0L V6 Ford Exploer SOHC ... no DOHC. Geez, I owned the **** thing for several years, I oughta know what was under the hood. ![wink [emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/wink.gif)
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A friend of mine has a 2011 Ranger. It has the 4.0 SOHC engine. In the USA.
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Anyhoo... back to the trailer itself lol. @Soundguy, of the "deficiencies you noted, only the sagging tank would be a major concern for me. But I was glad to see the dealer took action for you. I would definitely make that fix part of any deal. It would really suck seeing the fresh water tank in the rear view mirror while hauling down the QEW.
I have total OCD when it comes to storage and love what you did adding those extra cabinet doors. Well played!
Curious, where would the changes from 2017 to 2018 be posted or would you need to contact a dealer? Wondering if they made some tweaks on those items you highlighted.
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