Ed White
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I've been trying to get my contact at Pemex to provide a new list, but three weeks of emails and pleading haven't managed it yet. I'm still trying.
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MEXICOWANDERER
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ED are you likeley to get a new list from Pemex. I have have mapped out tations pretty much along a caravan route I am leaidng in 2 weeks. The only gap is the west coast from Manzanillo to Mazatlan.
And south on Mex 200 through Tecoman, Cerro de Ortega - Lazaro - Acapulco - to Salina Cruz?
Or does your route take you to Guadalajara?
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Felipe
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I may have made a mistake but....well lets see. I just purchased a 2017 F-250 with the 6.7 diesel motor. I travel quite often to Mexico since I have a home and boat there. I live in Tucson Arizona so cross the border in Nogales to Hermosillo (State of Sonora) then West to Kino Bay. Does anyone know if there are gas stations along this route and in Hermosillo that sell "ultra low sulfur diesel" ?
From what I have read it will be available at the end of 2018 and is available at some locations now, but where?
HELP!
Felipe
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MEXICOWANDERER
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Whatever you do, do not rely on what a gasolinista tells you. They'll tell you whatever it takes to please you.
Nogales (I think) is a cargo POE. Take time in Nogales AZ. Go to a big rig trans shipping transfer yard. Proceed into the office. The staff will not steer you wrong. All Mexican commercial 18 wheel vehicles entering into the USA by federal law have nothing but ULSD in their tank.
You can try Google and telephone an office in AZ. If there is any hesitation in their answer, shine it on. I have heard totally unsubstantiated gossip that the gasolinera in Sta Ana, on the southwest corner of the entronque of Mex 15 and Mex 2, has UBA. But any answer you get from a transhipper office trumps this guesswork.
This brings up a question. Mexico is strict at some crossings about hauling in USA fuel in cans. What are comments about permanently bed mounted tanks connected to the vehicle fuel system?
I have avoided mention of using regular Mexican refined diesel for a reason. That reason is because it is not part of the OPs question.
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moisheh
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Felipe: I spend the season in Kino and travel that route often. I do not think any of the fuel is ULSD. If it is the pumps and signs certainly do not have any signs! I will say this again: There is no need ( other than environmental concerns) for there to be ULSD on that route. NO TRUCKS sold in Mexico use ULSD. I also doubt any truck mfr. will equip new trucks with the required emission systems until the fuel is available. I will also note that the newer emission systems would add way over $10,000 to the cost of a new truck. Maybe even $20,000.
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moisheh
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mexwanderer; The law may state they need ULSD but where do they get that fuel? In Mexico( I doubt that). Maybe in the USA?? Who checks the fuel? I suppose the few trucks that go beyond the border area may buy USA fuel but there are not many trucks that go that far. The last I read maybe 1000 crossings a year. Most of those were CEMEX trucks.
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Ed White
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Felipe, notwithstanding what the naysayers may claim, there has been ULSD at Kino Bay for at least 3 years. I haven't received a single report of sulfur-in-fuel issues from that area for more than 3 years. This is CONSISTENT with Pemex documentation stating that there is ULSD there. In addition, Pemex says there is ULSD at Benjamin Hill, so you can fill up there too. I wouldn't expect you to have any issues with sulfur in the fuel for the region you travel in. And even when late model Ford owners take their trucks to places like the Southern Baja, it is extremely rare to have any issues. Fords are very tolerant of high sulfur levels in the fuel.
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Tequila
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Felipe wrote:I may have made a mistake but....well lets see. I just purchased a 2017 F-250 with the 6.7 diesel motor. I travel quite often to Mexico since I have a home and boat there. I live in Tucson Arizona so cross the border in Nogales to Hermosillo (State of Sonora) then West to Kino Bay. Does anyone know if there are gas stations along this route and in Hermosillo that sell "ultra low sulfur diesel" ?
From what I have read it will be available at the end of 2018 and is available at some locations now, but where?
HELP!
Felipe
http://www.mexicocaravan.com/ulsd.php
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Tequila
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I am currently leading a caravan from Mission, Texas through colonial Mexico, the yucatan Chiapas and the west coast. So far we have only filled at stations on Ed's list. None of the pumps are marked ULSD except in Mexico City. We will see if the ULSD vehicles in our group have any issues.
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Felipe
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Thank you Ed. I also called a Amado Transport that imports from Mexico into the US. They were very helpful and put me in touch with their offices in Hermosillo. They did state that they use ULSD when transporting goods into the US. For those of you that are not aware Hermosillo is a city of over 1M people. They gave me the locations of two Pemex stations that carry UBA (low sulfur) diesel. Amado purchases their fuel from a distributor that does not sell to the general public. I also contacted a Mexican businessman that I know who just so happens to own one of the two Pemex stations in Kino Bay, I have yet to hear back from him. I am familiar with Benjamin Hill and do know there is a large Pemex station there. I will check it out.
I am not new to Mexico but am to diesel. I have had a home in Kino for 45 years! Thank you all for your assistance.
Felipe
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