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Quote:Since the gasolinaza, Mexico is importing 400% more USA -regular- diesel and USA regular diesel has about half the sulfur as so called Mexican regular diesel.
To clarify, sample diesel from the following states for obtaining guaranteed 100% refined in Mexico diesel. Michoacan, Guerrero, Oaxaca, Chiapas. This thing is changing monthly. The port where tanker delivery is least likely to take place is Salina Cruz, Oaxaca.
I cannot make any factual statement but it is my understanding that the regular diesel Mexico imports is for things like ocean going ships - diesel generators - railroad locomotives. This fuel may or may not find it's way to gas stations.
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Ed White
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The Mexico City area has been supplied exclusively with ULSD for a number of years, as has Guadalajara and Monterrey.
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Thanks Ed, I'll pass the information on. . .
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MEXICOWANDERER
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Ed, the gasolinaza (you do remember that?) changed the entire picture of UBA ULSD in Mexico. Pemex was falling too short of money to pay for USA ULSD (try they were in outright crisis) and money raised from the hotly protested fuel price increase allowed a sea change in USA fuel purchases. It has been almost 10-months since the gasolinaza. A coincidence with your Puerto Vallarta observations? I think not.
Navegator's excellent information about Mexico and Distrito Fererales new buses and UBA announcements made me smile. At last it is happening.
But Pemex's so called news update about some massive refinery modernization is pure 100% poppycock. The refineries with the greatest attempts at process unit upgrades for obtaining UBA diesel are at the refineries around Mexico and Ed, I believe you do have that Pemex infrastructure map.
Pemex announced years ago the "almost completion" of the UBA gasoline (Premium) process units at the Salina Cruz refinacion. In fact NO WORK had or has been performed. Much of Pemex's budget has gone into emergency repairs at the "Reynosa" and "Villahermosa" units.
Here is a list of the major oil refineries in Japan that are supplying both UBA diesel and UBA PREMIUM gasoline to ports on Mexico's WEST coast.
Negishi Yokahama Refinery
Kawasaki Refinery
Cosmo Oil
Chiba Refinery
Showa Yokkaichi Refinery
Kashima Refinery
Mizushima Refinery
Much Japanese refined diesel ranges in the 0 (yes ZERO) to 10PPM sulfur content category. With the network of pipelines in Mexico it is difficult to say who gets what but for the most part on the west coast fuel either comes from Salina Cruz Oaxaca, or is imported.
I will repeat the Pemex mantra:
When every gasolinera in Mexico has diesel UBA it will be then that gasolineras will be allowed to display signs advertising DIESEL UBA.
A MAJOR upgrade to Mexican refined gasoline will occur when the country finally has MAGNA UBA. UBA MAGNA means a quantum leap in quality for Magna.
But the question of what will or will not happen to pump prices on 1 November, tempers my enthusiasm. It just isn't an issue of "Gee how much am I gonna pay to fill my RV?"
Nothing, and I mean ZERO is not sensitive to the price of fuel. Electricity, food, cattle, transportation of all goods, and even busses, and taxis would be forced to leap upward in expense. Yeah, even surviving RV park and hotel prices will suffer.
I think very little of tourism impact - I confine my thoughts to people barely scraping by. The true heart and soul of this country.
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Actually, a quick Google or Bing search will turn up confirmations that Samsung Engineering of Japan, and Foster Wheeler (of Switzerland) are presently upgrading refineries in Mexico with de-sulfuring units. Foster Wheeler says Salina Cruz will be completed in early 2018.
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navegator
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Salina Cruz refinery just anounced today that they are reducing the flow of crude since the quake they shut down production and are checking for damage as they re start, will not be fully operational until the end of October.
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MEXICOWANDERER
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I hope you are right Ed. My comments are negative from experience, hopeful in nature. But where is the Premium UBA? 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 process unit finish dates, but no fuel.
I remain extremely skeptical. The flood of 2017 UBA diesel has been due to 100% extraneous importation. Not one drop of UBA Premium has been refined in country.
Desulfuation plants are large, touchy, and expensive to maintain, never mind build. Japan does not want sulfur neither does the USA. Stauffer Chem in the USA demanded liquefied (molten) sulfur for conversion to H2SO4 which was recycled for isobutane conversion to alkylate at the refineries Chevron, Exxon, and Shell.
Fuel sesulfurazation demands sweet feedstock. A de-coker unit. Mexican crude is anything but sweet.
We shall see.
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I've never been optimistic in the past, but this time around the progress appears to be real. PLUS, the legislation related to the 2018 year end deadline will force Pemex to IMPORT all it's ULSD diesel if it can not produce it itself. Pemex's production would have to exported, not sold in Mexico.
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101% agreement. If they have to pack it in by burro they will do it. It is rumored warehouses are holding several tens of thousands of black vinyl decals with the letters UBA on them. The day one station sticks the deals on the black diesel sign all the stations will be eligible (so says PEMEX).
I am looking for the de-sulfurization of Magna. Hoo Boy what a difference that will make in my nasty-fussy toad. No More Techron! The Mitsubishi engine will run worse and worse until it becomes actually dangerous in stalling. New spark plugs did not help. Only Techron helped. That does not happen nearly as fast as when using exclusively Premium, but what a waste of octane and money. Baja California Magna works fine without dosing. Quicksilver has a highly modified Cummins 855 turbo engine and I have no idea what UBA will do for or against it. It has never seen ULSD. Neither have my Kubota or Lombordini generators.
Back in 2013, Fluor and Bectel made big noises about undergoing redesign of the Salamanca refinacion. Ernesto, told me the redesign consisted of meetings, a full day of Press Ops, and Fluor and Bectel departed. I think PEMEX executives are trying to please everybody. The Mexican government milks PEMEX like a Holstein for cash. Yet demands more cash and more output.
With added funding from the gasolinaza, PEMEX has really put the suction on the Deer Park refinery for UBA. In another couple of years additional ULSD refinery output in the USA will make Mexican refineries even less stressed. Light ends recovery from sweet shale oil is so high it virtually doubled the availability per bbl for inherently low sulfur feedstock. PABCO the asphalt company next door to Shell MTZ threw a fit when asphalt was no longer the red headed stepchild of the refinery. The majors signed an agreement with PEMEX exchanging crude on a 2 to 1 basis. The US needed more asphalt and Mexico needed to lighten the heavy burden MAYA was putting on it's refineries for light distillates production.
Mexico has an incredible abundance of natural gas. Many US cities utilize natural gas public transportation and it is a quantum leap cleaner fuel than 0 ppm ULSD.
But the use of MTBE gasoline oxygenator continues in urban areas. The odor of which is instantly recognizable in the winter months down here. Read this as an up and coming groundwater pollution scandal sometime in the near future.
Never boring down here. Where's my Katchina Doll and pins? I am shooting for putting a hex on the 1 November "maybe huge" fuel surcharge.
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Tequila
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ED are you likeley to get a new list from Pemex. I have have mapped out tations pretty much along a caravan route I am leaidng in 2 weeks. The only gap is the west coast from Manzanillo to Mazatlan.
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