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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:Groover wrote:I should have put in an order for a cybertruck. I was inclined to wait a couple of years anyway but I just saw this on insideevs.com:
"While it's true that many (some guess as much as 50%) of the Cubertruck reservations won't convert to sales, there are already so many reservations that even if only half of them convert, Tesla may have a production backlog of about three to four years once they begin manufacturing the vehicle."
Now I don't want to have a deposit tied up for 5 years while I wait for the truck.
From my stressed out son who left Tesla, Elon can shift production priorities in a snap of his finger when he sees pile up of demand and higher profits for the Tesla models.
With Cybertruck's reservations and, hopefully, low cost manufacturer, it could get a higher priority.
We are definitely in the on the fence crowd. I would say there is a 1 in 3 chance of us completing the deal. Lots of lifestyle changes coming up in the next 3 years for us. Time will tell.
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Groover wrote:I should have put in an order for a cybertruck. I was inclined to wait a couple of years anyway but I just saw this on insideevs.com:
"While it's true that many (some guess as much as 50%) of the Cubertruck reservations won't convert to sales, there are already so many reservations that even if only half of them convert, Tesla may have a production backlog of about three to four years once they begin manufacturing the vehicle."
Now I don't want to have a deposit tied up for 5 years while I wait for the truck.
From my stressed out son who left Tesla, Elon can shift production priorities in a snap of his finger when he sees pile up of demand and higher profits for the Tesla models.
With Cybertruck's reservations and, hopefully, low cost manufacturer, it could get a higher priority.
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I should have put in an order for a cybertruck. I was inclined to wait a couple of years anyway but I just saw this on insideevs.com:
"While it's true that many (some guess as much as 50%) of the Cubertruck reservations won't convert to sales, there are already so many reservations that even if only half of them convert, Tesla may have a production backlog of about three to four years once they begin manufacturing the vehicle."
Now I don't want to have a deposit tied up for 5 years while I wait for the truck.
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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:Reisender wrote:Yosemite Sam1 wrote:That's why I love Tesla -- other than my obsence profit on their stocks.
The continuing improvements, mostly free, when you are already on the hook. cooked and in their frying pan having bought their unit.
Sam. On your cybertruck reservation did you select FSD. Not giving advice here but we changed ours to include FSD this morning. If we don't want it at the time we can take it off. But Groover is right. On monday it is going up 2000 bucks. Right on the website it states your price is locked in.
FSD isn't worth it to everybody. All Tesla vehicles come stock with Autopilot at no extra cost. FSD is 8000 bucks extra right now. It is a nice to have, not need to have.
Just a heads up.
Cheers.
Thanks. I'm not inclined to get an FSD but. I appreciate the heads up and your info on decision time line.
As I might have mentioned. FSD needs to be turned off on tow mode for current Tesla vehicles. And. seems dangerous if you turn off the tow mode so FSD can work even while towing a trailer. Dangerous since the CT's computer will not be including the towed vehicle for consideration in its maneuvering.
I am optimistic though it will actually be included in tow mode. How else difficult to have it in Cybbertruck when the Semis would logically have it already..
We'll see.
Yah I hear ya. I was just looking at it from the point of not costing anything to select it now as an option and it leaves your options open later.
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Reisender wrote:Yosemite Sam1 wrote:That's why I love Tesla -- other than my obsence profit on their stocks.
The continuing improvements, mostly free, when you are already on the hook. cooked and in their frying pan having bought their unit.
Sam. On your cybertruck reservation did you select FSD. Not giving advice here but we changed ours to include FSD this morning. If we don't want it at the time we can take it off. But Groover is right. On monday it is going up 2000 bucks. Right on the website it states your price is locked in.
FSD isn't worth it to everybody. All Tesla vehicles come stock with Autopilot at no extra cost. FSD is 8000 bucks extra right now. It is a nice to have, not need to have.
Just a heads up.
Cheers.
Thanks. I'm not inclined to get an FSD but. I appreciate the heads up and your info on decision time line.
As I might have mentioned. FSD needs to be turned off on tow mode for current Tesla vehicles. And. seems dangerous if you turn off the tow mode so FSD can work even while towing a trailer. Dangerous since the CT's computer will not be including the towed vehicle for consideration in its maneuvering.
I am optimistic though it will actually be included in tow mode. How else difficult to have it in Cybbertruck when the Semis would logically have it already..
We'll see.
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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:That's why I love Tesla -- other than my obsence profit on their stocks.
The continuing improvements, mostly free, when you are already on the hook. cooked and in their frying pan having bought their unit.
Sam. On your cybertruck reservation did you select FSD. Not giving advice here but we changed ours to include FSD this morning. If we don't want it at the time we can take it off. But Groover is right. On monday it is going up 2000 bucks. Right on the website it states your price is locked in.
FSD isn't worth it to everybody. All Tesla vehicles come stock with Autopilot at no extra cost. FSD is 8000 bucks extra right now. It is a nice to have, not need to have.
Just a heads up.
Cheers.
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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:That's why I love Tesla -- other than my absence profit on their stocks.
The continuing improvements, mostly free, when you are already on the hook. cooked and in their frying pan having bought their unit.
Unfortunately Full Self Driving (FSD) is not a free upgrade, unless you have already paid for it. Right now it is priced at $8,000 and will go to $10,000 in a few days. Elon has hinted that it may go up even more when fully released. It may also be available for rent for occasional users but I haven't seen anything about pricing on that.
Since it is software that is maintained over the internet I am not sure who owns it when the car is sold, the buyer, the seller or even Tesla. I expect some clarification on that soon.
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That's why I love Tesla -- other than my obsence profit on their stocks.
The continuing improvements, mostly free, when you are already on the hook. cooked and in their frying pan having bought their unit.
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Groover wrote:Tesla's Full Self Driving has been released to select beta testers outside of the company for feedback before a general release.
So far the only negative comments that I have seen are cautions from Tesla reminding the testers that it is a test and they need to stay vigilant just ion case.
We got a software update yesterday but alas it is just the precursur to the FSD update. We got 2020.40.8 and apparently the FSD BETA update is 2020.40.8.10.
2020.40.8 that we got consisted of a few minor updates including.
* being able to put a PIN number on the glove compartment.
* priority Bluetooth device so you can set it to default to a certain iphone.
* activation of heated charge port for those cars built after august 2020. (not ours so doesn't count for us)
* better speed limit sign recognition and integration into autopilot. .
* efficiency increase which affects different cars built at different times. I'm guessing we gained 8 to 12 KM of range but its freakin cold here (minus 1 celcius) and projected ranges are based on temp etc. If I had to guess our new fair weather range would be 525 - 530 KM. The new model 3 All Wheel Drives built after September with the new battery have 569 KM EPA range now. Standard range plus is around 423 KM EPA now.
There were apparently some shadow changes as well but hard to tell. Apparently zero to sixty times with the efficiency increase went from 4.4 to 4.2 for those without the boost package and I think 3.7 with the boost. That thing is hard to tell unless you have one of those draggy thingys.
We had to go out for groceries last night and the only I can tell that is obviously more different is it is more gentle in the approach to stop signs or stop lights. A couple of updates ago it was too slow, then it got too fast and in my opinion waited to long to slow down approaching a stop light or stop sign or line of cars etc. Now it seems to be in that Goldilocks region. Jusssst riiiight. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/smile.gif "smile")
Here in Canada the FSD BETA is not expected to be released till January or so. Meh. I don't think winter and snowy roads is a good time to to BETA test this kinda thing anyway.
All above JMHO
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Tesla's Full Self Driving has been released to select beta testers outside of the company for feedback before a general release.
So far the only negative comments that I have seen are cautions from Tesla reminding the testers that it is a test and they need to stay vigilant just ion case.
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