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Posted: 08/30/17 04:47pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

^^^ That's good stuff. More places are now bonding instead of welding. 3M makes a bunch too, that's what I normally use. Years ago I "glued" a new dogleg into our Explorer. The bond was stronger than the metal - ask me how I know. [emoticon]


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Bruce Brown wrote:

^^^ That's good stuff. More places are now bonding instead of welding. 3M makes a bunch too, that's what I normally use. Years ago I "glued" a new dogleg into our Explorer. The bond was stronger than the metal - ask me how I know. [emoticon]



What did you do????? Lol.....


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Ok, next is a test of the strength of aluminum, which is screwed to plywood. I wanted to see how it would hold up to weight being put on it.

So, I looked at the side of the motor home, and found that the rivets that hold the bottom of the siding onto the motor home were about 4 1/4 inches apart.

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Posted: 08/31/17 06:35pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

So, I built a box out of 2" x 3" lumber, and about 20 inches square.


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And then I screwed the aluminum to the wood frame. I used aluminum screws, and spaced them 4 1/2" apart.

The aluminum is about .010" thick. That is 10/1000 of an inch thick. Not very thick by any means.

You can see the white heads of the screws in this pic.


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And the bottom of the box, with the aluminum screwed fast.


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So, it's time to put some weight on this little puppy......


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Putting the same 350 + lbs on the aluminum, that I put onto the blueboard insulation.


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You can see the screw heads, all around the edge of the aluminum.

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And BAM. Fifteen seconds later, we have this failure.


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As you can see, the screws remain in place, and the aluminum pulled through the screws.

I know, I know, what do you expect out of such thin aluminum?

Tomorrow, I plan on having a test of using another piece of aluminum from the same roll, but gluing it to the same frame.

I will be using the Norton speedgrip structural adhesive, that was shown in an earlier post.

We will see how that holds up, compared to the screws.

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A little better shot of the top of the aluminum, after the failure.


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Posted: 08/31/17 07:18pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

And one more view.....


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