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fulltimin

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Posted: 08/09/17 05:52pm

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Now in this pic, we see the fill tube going in to the side of the gas tank. I have another pic that shows this better, and will post it after this one.

The red line still shows the fill tube, and the yellow line is still the breather line.

A couple of things to notice about this pic.

First of all, the green rectangle is the frame of the chassis.

You will notice that the yellow vent tube makes a bend and goes over top of the frame. It then goes to the center of the gas tank, and drops down in the center of the tank.

On the other hand, the red line fill tube, enters the tank at about the half way mark. That is, there is about as much gas tank above the fill tube as there is below it.

The gas tank entends up inside the frame, nearly to the top of the frame.

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Posted: 08/09/17 05:55pm

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Here you can see a little better, where the fill hose enters the tank. The green lines indicate the frame of the chassis.

The 2 red lines indicate the approximate top and bottom of the gas tank.

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Posted: 08/09/17 06:04pm

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Now, backing up a couple of pics....

This pic shows a dip in the vent hose for filling the tank. Sometimes this vent hose will dip all the way down to the fill tube, or lower.

When you fill the tank, some gas will slosh around the tank and spill into the vent hose. When the vent hose dips that low, the gas cannot get out, and just lays there.

Now, you have a vent hose that cannot vent. So, anytime you put gas in, there is no place for the air to go. The air will bubble up through the fill hose eventually, but, as you already know, it is slow.......

Obviously, you want to keep that vent hose fairly high, since it goes in over top of the frame, which will allow any gas that may get in there, to drain back into the tank.

This is not a cure all, but it does help when filling the gas tank. Hope that helps someone understand what is going on with one of these.....

By the way, this is an 80 gallon tank, and does not, repeat not, have a fuel pump in the tank. This is a 1983 model, and I have had the tank down to replace the sending unit, so I know it has no fuel pump in there. Your mileage may vary, but this is a carb unit, not fuel injection.

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Posted: 08/09/17 06:16pm

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And now we have, what I call a floor sandwich...

In this first pic, we have the 1.5" square steel in the background, and you can see the aluminum, which is glued to the bottom of the steel.

The pinkish stuff on the aluminum is glue....

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Posted: 08/09/17 06:17pm

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Now we add blue board insulation, and glue that to the aluminum sheeting on the bottom.

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Posted: 08/09/17 06:20pm

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And finally, we add plywood, and yes, glue that to the blue board insulation, and also to the top of the 1.5" square steel tubing.

So, we have a floor, that is glued together, and then bolted to the frame, on the bottom.

That does make for a solid floor - at least for a while, and that is why they can get away with using 1/2" plywood on the floor. Eventually, from walking on it, some of the glue will loosen and then the floor gets spongy.

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Posted: 08/10/17 06:45pm

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IT'S ALL GONE!!!!!!

It's all gone........

There is nothing left inside to take off. Yay..!!!....!!!

On a bright note, I did get to replace 6 of the 12 bolts that hold the coach flooring to the chassis frame.

The yellow circles are where I put the new ones in. Yes, I took the easy way out today, and replaced ones that were easy to get to. .... Lol...

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Posted: 08/10/17 06:58pm

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I'm going to talk about something here, that we men just don't do. Feelings... Oh no, not feelings! Yes, feelings.

Probably not what you think though.

I was not planning on taking out the gray or black water tank, nor the generator, and was trying to figure out how to rebuild this working around those 3 items. And then, I thought, why not. Why not indeed!

After they were removed, I looked at what I had left, and it occurred to me--- now I don't have the restrictions staring me in the face, that I have to work around, as I rebuild this thing.

I felt (feelings).....liberated!

It did change my outlook a little about what I can do to the inside of this thing. The tanks can be put back anywhere, or replaced with different size or shape, a generator can be put anywhere, etc.

I will have to watch the weight of everything I put back in, so the rig remains balanced, but that should be easier than trying to work around things that were left in place.

Then after all that, I thought - Hey - If I wanted to, I could even move the entrance door.

Yay!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 08/11/17 04:13pm

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Here's a picture I forgot to post. I was removing some insulation from the floor, and it was stuck very well to the aluminum sheeting underneath it.

In this pic, you can see inside the red circle, where I first jammed the screwdriver in, to help lift the insulation off of the aluminum.

The yellow circle, above the screwdriver head, shows where the glue (pink) stuck to the insulation, and where it did not (white-ish), and stuck to the aluminum under the screwdriver.

This pic is a little washed out, as I had to adjust it before posting it, as it was a little dark.

Just in case you are wondering, I have been doing my photo adjustments /manipulation with a free program called paint.net. The web address is ... https://www.getpaint.net/

It is a download for Windows, and just does a nice job, and hey, it's free. I have no affiliation with them, just a satisfied user.

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