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wa8yxm

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Posted: 04/20/17 05:27am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Re Amp Hours... Group 31 are 110-130 at the C/20 rate. Now you can do things like Wal*Mart does and rat them for example at the 1 amp rate to get higher numbers ... but we use C/20 here so as to keep it fair

Deka batteries are made in the USA from US materials, Not imported, all home made. I have DEKAs as my primary batteries.

But if it says "MARINE" on it.. It is NOT a true deep cycle.


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Posted: 04/19/17 04:49pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

So a PD9270 converter with pendant is a good choice?

Just bought one. It will be here by Tuesday. Brand new, full 2 yr warranty, with serial number and pendant.

Bought on Ebay, 100% positive, experienced seller.

Paypal had a 20% up to $20 coupon. I paid $192 with free shipping.

Figure if I'm going to be wiring, may as well do it "once" [emoticon]

Thanks, guys, for the info and the "push" to do it right [emoticon]

* This post was edited 04/19/17 05:07pm by DiskDoctr *

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I've got to take this stuff with triple dosages of sarcastic pessimism. Having hand's on control of what I make seems to soothe the savage beast. I seem to be a victim of a sense of responsibility for NOT depleting resources for chew & spit performance and reliability. The idiocy of mediocrity is clear cutting the earth.

All this sounds wonderful until the ladies understand what significance this has for their changing wardrobe, appliances and furniture styles five times a year.

Then I myself become an immediately endangered species.

If it cannot be repaired - do not manufacture it (appliances).

Fat chance.

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Posted: 04/19/17 04:18pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

MEXICOWANDERER wrote:

The Wiffie!

Connected to 1/2 depleted 31 AGM using terminals on the end of the Wiffie's original factory 6 gauge wires. Maybe 14" long? Zooooooooomed to 14.4 volt "Boooooooooooooooooost" for maybe 15 seconds than wimped to 13.6 volts. Thus was summoned the anger, oops I mean "need" for the BORG.

WFCO the Yugo of converters. Brother is a Lada, sister is a Renault Dauphin. Right up there with Lucas electrical quality and Chinese sales specifications. Oops I forgot about English bolts. Grade 0.2


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Posted: 04/19/17 04:16pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Okay, about this converter business....

Does C/10 still count with the Deka 31's I listed?

If so, they are 105ah/ea, so for 3 batteries I would need 30-40 amps max charging rate?

Or is more = better?

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Posted: 04/19/17 04:09pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Looking around, I have a fair amount of 8/3, a little less 6/2, and maybe 20-30 ft of 2 AWG welding cable.

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The Wiffie!

Connected to 1/2 depleted 31 AGM using terminals on the end of the Wiffie's original factory 6 gauge wires. Maybe 14" long? Zooooooooomed to 14.4 volt "Boooooooooooooooooost" for maybe 15 seconds than wimped to 13.6 volts. Thus was summoned the anger, oops I mean "need" for the BORG.

WFCO the Yugo of converters. Brother is a Lada, sister is a Renault Dauphin. Right up there with Lucas electrical quality and Chinese sales specifications. Oops I forgot about English bolts. Grade 0.2

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DiskDoctr wrote:

We'll upgrade the converter/charger now if we must. Sounds like it is likely?


That's the improvement that would gain you the most, especially if you mount it close the battery location. Question is, what to buy when you haven't yet identified just which batteries you intend to also buy. [emoticon]

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Posted: 04/19/17 02:52pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

SoundGuy wrote:

DiskDoctr wrote:

2. I have the WF-8955AN 3 stage charger at 55amps ...


And there's your biggest issue ... probably wired with way too much 6 gauge to get to the battery location and almost for sure never bulk charges at it's advertised 14.4 volts. It's the same problem I and just about every other WFCO owner has [emoticon] ... I solved mine by turning the darned thing off and instead using a portable charger that does do a proper 14.4 volt bulk charge and is wired directly to the battery with 6' of 4 gauge.

Fact is, charger and battery are directly related - buy a Trojan and you're going to want to bulk charge at 14.8 volts, buy a Deka AGM and you'll want temperature compensated charging which almost no converter / charger is capable of. Getting the most out of whatever batteries you buy isn't just a matter of comparing battery to battery but also matching those batteries to the charger you intend to use to maintain them. Ignore it and you can bet you'll be replacing those batteries sooner rather than later. [emoticon]


I was hoping to get away with maybe just replacing the wiring from the converter to the batteries with heavier wire for now and upgrading the converter down the road.

I read that good improvements can be had by upgrading that run. The inverter will be near the batteries as everyone has suggested.

We are planning on a couple of "dry runs" in the next few weeks, probably in Camp Driveway as we test usage and charging/recovery, etc.

Hoping this will tell us:

1. Do we need a 3rd 12v Group 31 battery
2. Must we urgently upgrade the converter/charger
3. Are our inverter/battery bank/wiring/expectations well matched
4. Does everything else work? Any problems electrically or otherwise?

I have some welding cable somewhere I'm going to see if I can find. I also have access to long 4 conductor cable used to power old mobile homes. Have to check the gauge.

We'll upgrade the converter/charger now if we must. Sounds like it is likely?

Thanks guys for sticking with this [emoticon]

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Posted: 04/19/17 02:43pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

CA Traveler wrote:

Doc TMI


A number of the same folks have contributed to my other threads and questions about many of the items on that list, so it ties together.

Besides, it's a list, not a narrative. Easy to skip through as desired [emoticon]

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