ktmrfs
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alexleblanc wrote:Tire debates can go on for days, all I know is for on road use, those Defenders are always the highest rated on every site I see and everyone I talk to who runs them seem to be happy.
I will say that I've been impressed with the last few sets of Toyo tires ive run, might be worth looking at their new Toyo Open Country HT tires, they are well rated.
I tried the toyo HT when they first came out. NOT impressed. wore out quicker than either other toyo's or michelins and wet traction was terrible. may have changed over the years. Couple that with Les Schwab's lock on toyo's in Les schwab territory and much higher prices than toyo's elswhere and I pass on toyo's now.
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ktmrfs
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dewey02 wrote:theoldwizard1 wrote:RAS43 wrote:The winter tire will have a softer rubber compound for better grip in snow and on ice.If it is run during warmer weather and in towing situations I believe they will wear faster, hence the lower mileage warranty. I doubt you would get 40000 miles from them.
IF it is a true "winter" tire, which I kind of doubt. Winter tires are usually MORE EXPENSIVE than non-winter tires.
They on way to know if it is a true winter tire is to look for the symbol of a mountain embossed into the sidewall.
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Yes, they are a true winter tire and yes they are normally more expensive, but with spring coming they are closing out their stock and selling them for cheaper and have a rebate on them as well. But based on what folks here have said, I am no longer considering the winter tires anyway. (And the winter tires do take 80 lbs pressure, so they are not LT/Passenger tires, but full LT tires).
And just to put your mind to rest, it says WINTER in bold letters on the tire as well as having your winter symbol on the tire. Why on earth would a well-respected tire dealer like Discount Tire deliberately lie on their webpage?
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they are a "winter tire" with a snowflake rating but they are NOT a studless winter tire. completely different animal. that is the Michelin x-ice LT tire or bridgestone blizzak. the compound stays soft at lower temps etc. but still is listed as a year round tire but with shorter tread life.
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dewey02
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OP here.
Thank you to all who have responded.
I have the information I need now and have made my decision.
Again, thanks to everyone for sharing your experiences.
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walker111
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Asked similar questions a year ago for my F350 that came with Michelin LTX AT2.
I went with Defenders and am happy but only put 13k on last summer.
I run hankook Ipike winters on designated rims for winter. They are true winters and awesome.
Good luck with your choice.
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drsteve
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I've had a few sets of Michelin's over the years, and didn't like any of them. Poor ride, poor wear, and pricey.
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