troubledwaters
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I have Michelin LTX M/S 2 on my F250. I got 80,000 miles out of the first set and 65,000 miles out of the second set. I'm on my third set. You won't buy them for $200 each however.
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coolmom42
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I put Defender tires on my minivan and do not like them. They are a very hard ride; the tread is actually hard, which gives it the high mileage rating. Supposed to go to 90K miles.
I've also had one that was very difficult to balance. Took the 4th try at a good tire shop.
That said, they handle reasonably well and are holding up as advertised.
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troubledwaters wrote:I have Michelin LTX M/S 2 on my F250. I got 80,000 miles out of the first set and 65,000 miles out of the second set. I'm on my third set. You won't buy them for $200 each however.
I run the same. Current set right at 80,000 on them and plan to replace soon. I am looking at 900+ out the door on 4 P285/75/R16.
I have been running only these since 97 on all of my trucks and have no complaints.
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theoldwizard1
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RAS43 wrote:The winter tire will have a softer rubber compound for better grip in snow and on ice.If it is run during warmer weather and in towing situations I believe they will wear faster, hence the lower mileage warranty. I doubt you would get 40000 miles from them.
IF it is a true "winter" tire, which I kind of doubt. Winter tires are usually MORE EXPENSIVE than non-winter tires.
They on way to know if it is a true winter tire is to look for the symbol of a mountain embossed into the sidewall.
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micpib1
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This year I had Costco to install the latest and greatest Michelin M&S tire as I did not even get one year out of the LTX??? last year. I am done with Michelin Tires. I have purchased a new set of Michelins for many years and they are riding on their reputation now, not their quality of years past, just my opinion. My next set will be something else. Again, just my experience and opinion. JH
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dewey02
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theoldwizard1 wrote:RAS43 wrote:The winter tire will have a softer rubber compound for better grip in snow and on ice.If it is run during warmer weather and in towing situations I believe they will wear faster, hence the lower mileage warranty. I doubt you would get 40000 miles from them.
IF it is a true "winter" tire, which I kind of doubt. Winter tires are usually MORE EXPENSIVE than non-winter tires.
They on way to know if it is a true winter tire is to look for the symbol of a mountain embossed into the sidewall.
Yes, they are a true winter tire and yes they are normally more expensive, but with spring coming they are closing out their stock and selling them for cheaper and have a rebate on them as well. But based on what folks here have said, I am no longer considering the winter tires anyway. (And the winter tires do take 80 lbs pressure, so they are not LT/Passenger tires, but full LT tires).
And just to put your mind to rest, it says WINTER in bold letters on the tire as well as having your winter symbol on the tire. Why on earth would a well-respected tire dealer like Discount Tire deliberately lie on their webpage?
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theoldwizard1 wrote:RAS43 wrote:The winter tire will have a softer rubber compound for better grip in snow and on ice.If it is run during warmer weather and in towing situations I believe they will wear faster, hence the lower mileage warranty. I doubt you would get 40000 miles from them.
IF it is a true "winter" tire, which I kind of doubt. Winter tires are usually MORE EXPENSIVE than non-winter tires.
They on way to know if it is a true winter tire is to look for the symbol of a mountain embossed into the sidewall.
sorta. from my experience there is a HUGE difference between a snowflake aka mountain symbol, studless winter tire and a plain snowflake winter tire. the snowflake winter are NOT a studless winter tire. better than M&S they are ok for use year round, but not a substitute for a studded or studless winter tire.
for years the snowflake was reserved for studless or studded true winter tires. Now there are quite a few snowflake tires that are a year round tire, not the performance of a snowflake studdless tire. they may meet the test spec, but not the same ultimate performance
the true studless winter are spendy and the tread wear is fast. but they stick in the winter. I believe after carefull consideration I did, the michelin is a crossover tire. no where near the winter performance of the michelin x-ice or the blizzaks I've used on my truck. but then they last more than 10-15K miles the blizzaks do.
Personally I use the Michelin LTX for the summer and blizzak's in the winter.
I have never seen a true snowflake studless or studded winter tire with a treadlife mileage warranty.
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Flapper wrote:OK, you force me to ask, since I am in the same situation: What tires are better, so I can get those instead?
Firestone Destination or Transforce. I'm was running Coopers didn't like the wet weather traction so I swapped them out for Yokohama YK-HTX so far so good. They ride very smooth are quit and have very good wet weather traction, also are SL load range. Dunlap and Uniroyal are very good tires too.
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troubledwaters wrote:I have Michelin LTX M/S 2 on my F250. I got 80,000 miles out of the first set and 65,000 miles out of the second set. I'm on my third set. You won't buy them for $200 each however.
I just bought a set of 6 for my RAM Dually in October from Discount Tire for $186 per tire plus installation. In addition I got the $70.00 rebate so if you stand firm you can still get a good deal on the m/s 2!
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Tire debates can go on for days, all I know is for on road use, those Defenders are always the highest rated on every site I see and everyone I talk to who runs them seem to be happy.
I will say that I've been impressed with the last few sets of Toyo tires ive run, might be worth looking at their new Toyo Open Country HT tires, they are well rated.
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