Cummins12V98
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Truth, the AISIN is Made in USA. Largest transmission manufacturer in the world. Does that make them the best, NO! Their track record puts them Very high on the totem pole.
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patriotgrunt
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Cummins12V98 wrote:" I'm toying with the idea of ordering a new 2017 as my forever truck"
I would advise waiting til 2019, new truck same 6.7 but ALL emissions will be downstream of the engine and will no doubt blow the others away in the real world of towing.
While that may be true, I'd still wait a few years to see how reliable it is. My dad and I both got burned on the first generation 6.7 with DPF/SCR. I'm not saying it will definitely have issues but I am saying that I'm not willing to test it for them in real life especially if I planned to buy it as my "last" truck.
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Huntindog
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
So yes IMHO if GM could post SAE towing numbers in the 30K plus arena they sure would. Well I have totally different opinion as to why they don't.
It isn't power for sure. This test just proved that. It isn't brakes for the same reason.
I seriously doubt that it is the frame or the tranny.... Even if, it was the tranny, and GM really wanted it, they could take care of that real easy.
Looking at the past, it is clear the having the highest ratings hasn't been important to GM.
And that was before the extreme 30K ratings came out....
I have always thought that it is risky for a manufacturer to make a truck that any neophyte can pilot that can gross in the 40K range.
Perhaps GM just wants to watch how this plays out for awhile, before deciding whether to join in or not.
JMO.
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travelnutz
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DUH!
Where are Ram Aisin Transmissions made and who owns them? Aisin Transmissions not the rest of the drive train! Toyota Seiki!
www.dieselhub.com/trans/aisin-as69rc.html
One of many and in black and white print and very clear!
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john&bet
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travelnutz wrote:DUH!
Where are Ram Aisin Transmissions made and who owns them? Aisin Transmissions not the rest of the drive train! Toyota Seiki!
www.dieselhub.com/trans/aisin-as69rc.html
One of many and in black and white print and very clear! The Aisin trans is assembled 30 miles down I-65 from me. In an Aisin plant. They even have US born, American educated engineers working there.
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Cummins12V98
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patriotgrunt wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:" I'm toying with the idea of ordering a new 2017 as my forever truck"
I would advise waiting til 2019, new truck same 6.7 but ALL emissions will be downstream of the engine and will no doubt blow the others away in the real world of towing.
While that may be true, I'd still wait a few years to see how reliable it is. My dad and I both got burned on the first generation 6.7 with DPF/SCR. I'm not saying it will definitely have issues but I am saying that I'm not willing to test it for them in real life especially if I planned to buy it as my "last" truck.
Not worried, I bought the first year of the Factory Rear Aire Ride with no issues running at full RAWR. They have been working on this I know for a fact since Summer 2016 and no doubt before. Clean engine, I will take my chances. Besides they have 100K warranty.
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Cummins12V98
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travelnutz wrote:DUH!
Where are Ram Aisin Transmissions made and who owns them? Aisin Transmissions not the rest of the drive train! Toyota Seiki!
www.dieselhub.com/trans/aisin-as69rc.html
One of many and in black and white print and very clear!
You think there is no foreign ownership of GM's or Allison? Aisin is American Manufactured and American workers are employed.
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spud1957
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Cummins12V98 wrote:Truth, the AISIN is Made in USA. Largest transmission manufacturer in the world. Does that make them the best, NO! Their track record puts them Very high on the totem pole.
Interesting picture. You have always stated the Aisin is "Made in the USA" and it was tagged with that label stating that. Seems that is not the case.
FTC has a whole bunch of rules which allows manufacturers to state a product is made in the USA. It's obvious that the majority of the parts of the aisin are foreign and that would be why they state manufactured NOT made.
"Manufactured" and "Made" are not the same in the eyes of the FTC. Read up on it sometime.
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travelnutz
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spud1957,
You are so right. Tranny components are made offshore and imported as goods in process and assembled at Kokomo, Indiana. Aisin is Toyota Seiki owned in Japan.
Cummins12V98, likes to spread it thick and plays games with many things just like FCA does. You really have to read the fine print and the deceptive wording.
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Me Again
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NO auto today has all is parts made in the US. Get over it. The Power Stroke diesel is built/assembled in Mexico is an example.
I remember being concerned when I purchased my first HONDA that was assembled in the USA. It did have a Delco Battery!!!
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