Cummins12V98
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" All three brands do it with much heavier loads than your 5th wheel."
Correct, I think I was saying that. From my experience the VAST majority of Car Haulers are doing go with RAM trucks.
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Me Again
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Cummins12V98 wrote:" All three brands do it with much heavier loads than your 5th wheel."
Correct, I think I was saying that. From my experience the VAST majority of Car Haulers are doing go with RAM trucks.
Cool: Blue Oval on the building and the vans. How did you stage that? Chris
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FishOnOne
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Cummins12V98 wrote:" All three brands do it with much heavier loads than your 5th wheel."
Correct, I think I was saying that. From my experience the VAST majority of Car Haulers are doing go with RAM trucks.
I disagree....
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OK we are fifty/fifty Ford vs RAM.
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Huntindog
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ramincr wrote:Andre Smirnov
March 4, 2017 at 11:43 am
We did not detect any mechanical or software fault with the Super Duty. We did run the truck twice with similar results. We reported the best numbers
Did they give the other trucks two chances as well? If not, why not?
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Huntindog
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CumminsDriver wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:Huntindog wrote:patriotgrunt wrote:Lessmore wrote:Chevies have always been known for outstanding power...all starting back in 1955 with the introduction of the legendary small block Chevy V8. Power and lots of it...has been a bow tie tradition in both gas and diesel engines over the years.
So no....not at all...nope.... I'm not surprised that Chevy came first and Ford was at the tail end.
Some say horse power is horsepower....but in my humble opinion horses are rated differently....there are Shetland horses (blue oval) and then there are Clydesdale's (bow tie). ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
All I can say...is it is a good thing that the Chevy was 'hobbled' with 3.73's to the Ford's 4.10's....or could you imagine what the Chevy times would of been.
Remind my again why these trucks are only pulling 22,800#s? That 30K spec is not a realistic number for Rvers.
A 30K 5ver will have approx. 7500# pin weight.
None of the trucks are capable of that.
Lots of guys hauling big car trailers. So the upper numbers do apply just not to the masses. If they could pass the SAE test with 30K in tow they sure would have!
Heck my RV is borderline with the GM's.
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Lot's of guys hauling the big car hauler trailers with all three brands, but I do see a big advantage in numbers to the Ram. I travel about once a month to the San Francisco Bay area, and go by the Benicia Bridge where there is a huge area where the ships and Railroad off load cars and trucks. The Duallys hauling these trailers have 45K weight stickers on the doors so they don't go by what the trucks factory GCWR is, they go by what they can legally haul and how much they want to register the trucks for. All three brands do it with much heavier loads than your 5th wheel.
Rich Thank you for posting that pic. It just makes my point for me.
A 30K 5ver will not be possible with any of the three due to the .... Wait for it...........PIN WEIGHT.
As for the snide comment again about "if GM could, they would"
WHY? They have obviously ignored the advertised superiority game in the past, when they clearly could have claimed the crowns. So ignoring it now id consistent with their past protocol.
Fact is, nobody knows why GM has chosen a conservative approach to ratings in the past OR present.... Just as nobody knows why others have chosen to use liberal methods.... It is anyone's guess.
Thank you for sharing YOUR OPINION.
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All three did well, but the Bowtie continues to impress me more and more!
This was not only an uphill test but downhill, mpg and subjective scoring came into play.
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Huntindog wrote:ramincr wrote:Andre Smirnov
March 4, 2017 at 11:43 am
We did not detect any mechanical or software fault with the Super Duty. We did run the truck twice with similar results. We reported the best numbers
Did they give the other trucks two chances as well? If not, why not?
The other 2 trucks didn't need 2 chances.... ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/wink.gif "wink")
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Huntindog wrote:CumminsDriver wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:Huntindog wrote:patriotgrunt wrote:Lessmore wrote:Chevies have always been known for outstanding power...all starting back in 1955 with the introduction of the legendary small block Chevy V8. Power and lots of it...has been a bow tie tradition in both gas and diesel engines over the years.
So no....not at all...nope.... I'm not surprised that Chevy came first and Ford was at the tail end.
Some say horse power is horsepower....but in my humble opinion horses are rated differently....there are Shetland horses (blue oval) and then there are Clydesdale's (bow tie).
All I can say...is it is a good thing that the Chevy was 'hobbled' with 3.73's to the Ford's 4.10's....or could you imagine what the Chevy times would of been.
Remind my again why these trucks are only pulling 22,800#s? That 30K spec is not a realistic number for Rvers.
A 30K 5ver will have approx. 7500# pin weight.
None of the trucks are capable of that.
Lots of guys hauling big car trailers. So the upper numbers do apply just not to the masses. If they could pass the SAE test with 30K in tow they sure would have!
Heck my RV is borderline with the GM's.
Lot's of guys hauling the big car hauler trailers with all three brands, but I do see a big advantage in numbers to the Ram. I travel about once a month to the San Francisco Bay area, and go by the Benicia Bridge where there is a huge area where the ships and Railroad off load cars and trucks. The Duallys hauling these trailers have 45K weight stickers on the doors so they don't go by what the trucks factory GCWR is, they go by what they can legally haul and how much they want to register the trucks for. All three brands do it with much heavier loads than your 5th wheel.
Rich Thank you for posting that pic. It just makes my point for me.
A 30K 5ver will not be possible with any of the three due to the .... Wait for it...........PIN WEIGHT.
As for the snide comment again about "if GM could, they would"
WHY? They have obviously ignored the advertised superiority game in the past, when they clearly could have claimed the crowns. So ignoring it now id consistent with their past protocol.
Fact is, nobody knows why GM has chosen a conservative approach to ratings in the past OR present.... Just as nobody knows why others have chosen to use liberal methods.... It is anyone's guess.
Thank you for sharing YOUR OPINION.
The latest J Standard is not an opinion.
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Huntindog
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Cummins12V98 wrote:Huntindog wrote:patriotgrunt wrote:Lessmore wrote:Chevies have always been known for outstanding power...all starting back in 1955 with the introduction of the legendary small block Chevy V8. Power and lots of it...has been a bow tie tradition in both gas and diesel engines over the years.
So no....not at all...nope.... I'm not surprised that Chevy came first and Ford was at the tail end.
Some say horse power is horsepower....but in my humble opinion horses are rated differently....there are Shetland horses (blue oval) and then there are Clydesdale's (bow tie).
All I can say...is it is a good thing that the Chevy was 'hobbled' with 3.73's to the Ford's 4.10's....or could you imagine what the Chevy times would of been.
Remind my again why these trucks are only pulling 22,800#s? That 30K spec is not a realistic number for Rvers.
A 30K 5ver will have approx. 7500# pin weight.
None of the trucks are capable of that.
Lots of guys hauling big car trailers. So the upper numbers do apply just not to the masses. If they could pass the SAE test with 30K in tow they sure would have!
Heck my RV is borderline with the GM's.
I just watched the video again..
I noticed that the RAMs payload is ONLY 5690#.
It could just barely handle the pin weight of your 5ver.... If you packed light and skipped lunch.
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