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Posted By: thomasmnile on 05/25/18 02:42pm

Monkey do you find yourself more interested in your former 'home' teams than the Florida franchises? I repeatedly hear those analyst guys say that's one reason Florida pro sports franchises lack loyal followings because everyone is from somewhere else.


Posted By: thomasmnile on 05/25/18 02:50pm

I paid scant attention to the NBA 'til Orlando got a franchise. But since Rich DeVos allowed Shaq to leave for the Lakers 2 decades ago and repeating the same mistake with Dwight Howard and sacking Stan Van Gundy because Howard wanted him gone.......well not so much. DeVos won't open his wallet so they field a team of ham n' eggers and has beens. I pray every year DeVos sells the franchise.


Posted By: monkey44 on 05/25/18 08:20pm

thomasmnile wrote:

Monkey do you find yourself more interested in your former 'home' teams than the Florida franchises? I repeatedly hear those analyst guys say that's one reason Florida pro sports franchises lack loyal followings because everyone is from somewhere else.


The analysts are probably close to correct - but if the teams would become competitive often, that may change as least to some degree of support locally.

Well, of course Boston is my heart and soul, but to qualify that. Born in Boston area, so always a home fan of those teams first.

But have lived all over the country -- LA, SF, Florida for extended periods. Much of my family lives in Buffalo, so can enjoy Bills games. Became a Dodger fan, went to lots of games, and Rams fan, and became a 49ers fan as well, and Raiders (Stabler, Plunkett) ... And have enjoyed other short-term home teams too. We lived in Jacksonville for five years, tried to root for Jags, but saw too many bone-head decisions in management ... etc.

Do my roots remain in Boston (Born there, 30+ years living there) and Calif teams, another 30+ years there) so I can split my "rooting" pretty much coast to coast and enjoy the games. But, when local teams continue to lack 'watch-ability', that is (in my book at least) play competitively even if not consistently champs, that's tough to engage.


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Posted By: monkey44 on 05/25/18 08:24pm

We got a little off topic here, but I believe the same fundamental issues control most any sport today that receives a lot of television revenue - racing, baseball, football, basketball, no matter which one. If you can't entertain your fans consistently, you will lose that audience. And, once that happens, it's extremely difficult to get them back.


Posted By: PawPaw_n_Gram on 05/26/18 07:32pm

There is another thread currently running on this section of the forum about the future being electric vehicles.

I probably won’t have an electric pickup to replace my Ram 2500, but if my 21 year old granddaughter has an RV in 30 years, it will likely be electric powered.

Likewise, the future of sports is changing and the business model spectator sports must adapt to is the Internet, not television.

Talking about tv ratings, revenue, huge crowds of the late 90s and mid-2000’s is old school. We sound like buggy whip salesmen when we talk about getting the audience back. We never had them. For a few years NASCAR was the “in” think. No longer. NASCAR and other racing missed the boat with young people.

People under 30 are much more likely to watch a summary of a race/ game on the Internet than the live event on TV.

Television is adapting. Anyone notice that new series last 8 to 12 episodes. That there are over half as many viewers who only watch the episodes over the Internet as watch TV.

The world, and technology which delivers the he content of sports is changing.

There is no solution to getting the old audience back. Too many of them/ us are dying. The move to an internet focus should have been in the planning stages 20 years ago. In a way we NASCAR fans are somewhat lucky. Our sport will survive the cost cutting in the next decade better than stick and all sports as the TV money gets smaller and smaller.

But a lot of people in NASCAR and other motor sports will lose their jobs, or have to accept greatly reduced salaries.


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Posted By: thomasmnile on 05/26/18 08:20pm

Dunno Paw, I still think digital is the rationalization used to explain declining butts in seats and eyeballs on TV screens. Reality might be short attention spans, sporting events especially auto racing aren't instant gratification, just plain lack of interest. My smartphone can do a lot but watching video clips of my grandchildren is the extent of my TV 'viewing' with it.


Posted By: PawPaw_n_Gram on 05/27/18 10:15am

I am continually amazed by the number of young people I meet who watch TV shows and movies from Netflix on their smart phones by preference to a TV set.

Frankly, one of the 'disappointing' things about my TT is that I can only get a 32" tv in it. No more wall space. I gave up a 50" when we went full-time and I resent it.

As far as I'm concerned - bigger is better when it comes to watching video, but apparently not so with the younger generation.


Posted By: SARGUY on 05/27/18 10:46pm

Congrats to Kyle Busch for winning finally at Charlotte,had an awesome care and led most of the laps.


Posted By: thomasmnile on 05/28/18 08:13am

Watched little of the race but were it not for a flat tire and wreck, Harvick would have made it interesting. 39th to 4th in 70 laps. Impressive.


Posted By: FlatBroke on 05/28/18 08:18am

thomasmnile wrote:

Watched little of the race but were it not for a flat tire and wreck, Harvick would have made it interesting. 39th to 4th in 70 laps. Impressive.

Yeah it would have been fun. They were both on a mission.



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