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While not exactly a hotbed of motor sports journalism, an interesting article nonetheless, though I highly doubt Felix Sabates $25 billion value estimate, with or without the sale of International Speedway Corp and its tracks.
bobsallyh wrote:
Thomas, I think Felix has been smoking too many of those Cuban cigars. One heck of an article. NASCAR is like so many other American corporations over the last decade, "they want to be something to everybody" and have failed. And of course the All American word GREED.
Thomas, I think Felix has been smoking too many of those Cuban cigars. One heck of an article. NASCAR is like so many other American corporations over the last decade, "they want to be something to everybody" and have failed. And of course the All American word GREED.
Bob, to be sure, in its heyday, NASCAR was a money machine. I don't know if it was so much greed that drove the expansion of tracks West, as much as maybe NASCAR overestimated its own popularity. The growth spurt occurred following 'THE FIGHT' at the first live flag to flag televised Daytona 500. Think NASCAR rode the wave and it's petered out to a ripple as the racing became too homogenized and the drivers corporate robots. I would say it's a safe bet the next TV contracts won't be worth 8 billion, just as entitlement sponsorship is devalued or going away completely.
And as for ol' Brian, I found a USA Today article from 5 years ago detailing Brian's lost fight to keep his divorce settlement sealed. Had to pay the ex 9 million lump sum, $32000/month alimony for 10 years and several thousand a month child support for two children. Sounds like he needed to liquidate some or all of his holdings in the family business to pay all that.
ESPN regularly covers underwater snail racing, but didn't even bid on a Nascar contract.
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downtheroad wrote:
ESPN saw the writing on the wall.....
ESPN regularly covers underwater snail racing, but didn't even bid on a Nascar contract.
ESPN saw the writing on the wall.....
ESPN regularly covers underwater snail racing, but didn't even bid on a Nascar contract.
ESPN spends so much time and money on sports talk shows, they don't have time for much else.
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ESPN (and others) wonder why viewers tune out ... sports viewers have interest in seeing an athletic performance, not discussing (or arguing) who's right or wrong, or predicting who will win or lose. A little bit of insight goes a long way, but a lot of it just gets boring and redundant.
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monkey44 wrote:
Boy, that's for sure. Talk shows probably cost less than live or even recorded sports. Annalists telling us what we already know does not bring in much revenue or interest.
Boy, that's for sure. Talk shows probably cost less than live or even recorded sports. Annalists telling us what we already know does not bring in much revenue or interest.
Too many networks aiming for the same audience with too little worthwhile content and too many hours in the day to fill. The cable sports channels were a boon for the major league sports organizations, scoring record money for broadcast rights. ESPN especially, passed on the costs to the content distributors through ever increasing carriage fees. Now, with the 'cord cutting' that's occurring with consumer exodus from cable and satellite, that business model is hitting the wall. To me, the problem is simple, the stick and ball leagues, NASCAR, whoever, is getting a kings's ransom for a product that is maybe not top quality; that combined with the incessant commercials made necessary to recoup the cost of broadcast rights is in MHO why folks are tuning out.
Exhibit A: In my own backyard, the NFL franchises (Jags, Bucs, & Dolphins) ain't exactly scintillating entertainment these days. MLB: Rays and Marlins? Nope. NBA: The Orlando Tragic, er Magic? Not in nearly a decade...........Mediocrity lives here.
thomasmnile wrote:
Too many networks aiming for the same audience with too little worthwhile content and too many hours in the day to fill. The cable sports channels were a boon for the major league sports organizations, scoring record money for broadcast rights. ESPN especially, passed on the costs to the content distributors through ever increasing carriage fees. Now, with the 'cord cutting' that's occurring with consumer exodus from cable and satellite, that business model is hitting the wall. To me, the problem is simple, the stick and ball leagues, NASCAR, whoever, is getting a kings's ransom for a product that is maybe not top quality; that combined with the incessant commercials made necessary to recoup the cost of broadcast rights is in MHO why folks are tuning out.
Exhibit A: In my own backyard, the NFL franchises (Jags, Bucs, & Dolphins) ain't exactly scintillating entertainment these days. MLB: Rays and Marlins? Nope. NBA: The Orlando Tragic, er Magic? Not in nearly a decade...........Mediocrity lives here.
monkey44 wrote:
Boy, that's for sure. Talk shows probably cost less than live or even recorded sports. Annalists telling us what we already know does not bring in much revenue or interest.
Boy, that's for sure. Talk shows probably cost less than live or even recorded sports. Annalists telling us what we already know does not bring in much revenue or interest.
Too many networks aiming for the same audience with too little worthwhile content and too many hours in the day to fill. The cable sports channels were a boon for the major league sports organizations, scoring record money for broadcast rights. ESPN especially, passed on the costs to the content distributors through ever increasing carriage fees. Now, with the 'cord cutting' that's occurring with consumer exodus from cable and satellite, that business model is hitting the wall. To me, the problem is simple, the stick and ball leagues, NASCAR, whoever, is getting a kings's ransom for a product that is maybe not top quality; that combined with the incessant commercials made necessary to recoup the cost of broadcast rights is in MHO why folks are tuning out.
Exhibit A: In my own backyard, the NFL franchises (Jags, Bucs, & Dolphins) ain't exactly scintillating entertainment these days. MLB: Rays and Marlins? Nope. NBA: The Orlando Tragic, er Magic? Not in nearly a decade...........Mediocrity lives here.
We live in the same vicinity - but we moved from Red Sox territory and Patriots and Celtics. Hard to match that. Personally, I'm not necessarily a "win only fan", but like to see good baseball or whatever sport - skill at the position no matter the overall record. But when lack of skill and poor performance dominate continuously, for years, it's difficult to pull for a team.
Seems to me any channel that could show the games that mean the most between the teams at that point in the season should be available on "general TV" rather than just the home teams. One game a week choice that moves around doesn't mean much for the fans - especially for those that also move to a new area. Paying for the commercial service of Cable (or satellite) THEN paying again for "distant sports" access seems a bit much - and then blacking out some games anyway.
Be interesting to see what John Grudin does for the Raiders tho. I'm amazed he stayed away from coaching all these years... wonder if he pissed someone off with big juice?? Not so sure anyone can effectively "black ball" anyone nowadays, but it sure seems true here. I'd expect he'd been on a short list to replace plenty of coaches in the NFL today ... and would not put up for long with the 'anthem parade' before the games.