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Posted By: gmw photos
on 03/12/13 08:18pm
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JBarca wrote: I have tried to find a pic of new or old one installed on a truck. Found one but did not want to link here not knowing the person. I think they are even an RV net member. Many who have used them state they work well. And not dis-doubting them as their rig may be stable like it should be. The WD part hands down works. At this point it is not clear the level of how effective is the anti sway portion as compared to other brands in the high friction category. Here is a pic of mine on the Frontier the day I was setting it up. As shown here, a trip to the scales showed that I was restoring nearly all the weight again to the front axle. Without WD I was pulling 300 pounds off the front axle. This is what we are referring to as the old style head, but the more recent rotating brackets. As you can see this style brackets makes it easy to deal with any obstructions there like propane tanks. As far as how this hitch might compare to other brands regarding sway control, I can't comment because this is the only WD/sway control hitch I have used on this truck/trailer combo.
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Posted By: Rescue16
on 03/12/13 08:37pm
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Well I have now done 2 trips with the Sway pro Since asking everyone for input about this System. So far I am happy with it although I am still adjusting it in. Figured out my Rancho shocks are trash on my F350 so in the process of getting some Blisten's as soon as I can figure out the right 5100's I need for my stock FX4. Hooking it up is simple although to make things easier a got a Breaker Bar with the correct size socket to assist in hooking it up instead of using the handle they supply which the rubber handle slips of always at the wrong time. Well come back with a full review after I replace the shocks and get a few more miles of testing. Rescue 16 - United States Navy Retired and Proud Lovely Wife Carla "> The Crew Alicia and Johnathan "> The Camping Dog Kamp Chaos "> 2013 Keystone Cougar 32RBK 2006 Ford F350 Crew Cab Lariat 6.0 PowerStroke
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Posted By: JBarca
on 03/12/13 08:37pm
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Hi GMW, Your pic is not coming through. Really want to see it. John & Cindy 2005 Ford F350 Super Duty, 4x4; 6.8L V10 with 4.10 CC, SB, Lariat & FX4 package 21,000 GCWR, 11,000 GVWR Ford Tow Command 1,700# Reese HP hitch & HP Dual Cam 2 1/2" Towbeast Receiver 2004 Sunline Solaris T310SR (I wish we were camping!)
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Posted By: JBarca
on 03/12/13 08:42pm
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uprighter wrote: From what I've read, this is not the current model. The have eliminated the adjustment bolts on the bottom and the head tilt. Hi, yes you are correct. I posted the older model so we can see the differences. The new model is on the 1st page of this thread BTW, I see you are from Hudson Valley NY. I grew up and lived there 32 years in the lower Hudson Valley. Greenport area just outside of Hudson. Could see Olana state park from the farm house. |
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Posted By: JBarca
on 03/12/13 08:58pm
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In case you cannot see GMW Photos pic of his truck & Hitch See here. It will not post directly from some odd reason, but I can link it. http://www.wacaser.com/misc/potn/LU4M1023_620.jpg |
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Posted By: gmw photos
on 03/12/13 09:17pm
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And I'm not sure if you all will be able to this photo either, but if so, this is the camper ( funfinder 189FDS ) I'm pulling with the Frontier with the BlueOx hitch. Camper is just under 4000 pounds
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Posted By: eluwak
on 03/12/13 11:42pm
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We've put 1000 miles on our setup, and I think we have it just about dialed in now. I don't have a direct comparison with the same TV and TT combo, but it seems to work about the same or better than traditional spring bars & sway bars. If I had to do it over again I might try another system, but I'm not sure they would be any better (save PP or Hensley).
2016 Chevy Silverado 2500 CC LB 6.0L 1998 Chevy C2500 Suburban 454 3.73 (Sold) 2012 Ford F-150 EB CC 4x4 w/Max Tow (Sold) "> 2013 North Trail 28BRS
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Posted By: BenK
on 03/13/13 12:19pm
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PP & Hensley project the pivot point...the Pullrite's pivot point is actually moved towards the rear axle Nothing is perfect and nothing is purely bad I still like the PullRite, but it's issues have not been resolved in my mind Am liking this Blue Ox Sway Pro much more as the details come forth Like the trunnion bar pivot design, but do not like friction embedded into it's pivot point. The stoutness of their design makes the others flimsy and always hearing of how they wore or cracked the socket portion of the head Friction at the pivot point where the leverage arm is waaaaaaaaaaaay down there by the end of the trunnion will have the amount of friction required HIGH and the wear from that will be fast 'IF' there is to be a friction component, then I'd make the head top trunnion flange much larger and have the friction material on top of the trunnion bar. As the trunnion bar forces increase, so does the level of friction. Or some such design The folks who like the quick setup/take down of the Andersen should noodle this one Unhook looks like seconds for the chain and do see that my own tools would be way better than their supplied wrench Trunnions come out with a twist and pull after the chains are relieved of tension Some questions and one is the amount of head tilt they dialed into the casting which then is NOT adjustable...guess there will be some which will require more...but then bigger or higher rated bars would then transfer more weight that head tilting is all about (not enough distance to tension the bars on a other WD systems) Never like to drill into a stressed member and the clamp-on interesting, but don't like the potential of sliding along the tongue member. That can be solved with a cross member locking their clamp on chain tension-er The more I noodle this one, the more I like it ! -Ben Picture of my rig 1996 GMC SLT Suburban 3/4 ton K3500/7.4L/4:1/+150Kmiles orig owner... 1980 Chevy Silverado C10/long bed/"BUILT" 5.7L/3:73/1 ton helper springs/+329Kmiles, bought it from dad... 1998 Mazda B2500 (1/2 ton) pickup, 2nd owner... Praise Dyno Brake equiped and all have "nose bleed" braking! Previous trucks/offroaders: 40's Jeep restored in mid 60's / 69 DuneBuggy (approx +1K lb: VW pan/200hpCorvair: eng, cam, dual carb'w velocity stacks'n 18" runners, 4spd transaxle) made myself from ground up / 1970 Toyota FJ40 / 1973 K5 Blazer (2dr Tahoe, 1 ton axles front/rear, +255K miles when sold it)... Sold the boat (looking for another): Trophy with twin 150's... 51 cylinders in household, what's yours?... |
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Posted By: CHD Dad
on 03/13/13 01:07pm
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One other thing I didnt like about the new design when I first saw it - and this is true of the old design as well - the actual weight of the hitch. Its well over 100# in solid steel. Good for longevity but bad to have to handle or for those trying to watch weight (like me!) due to payload or any other reason. The Andersen can easily be handled by my wife where she couldnt budge the Ox. It looked very well built but when I got the new design I was apparently one of the first to get it. Even Blue Ox couldnt help me much with all my questions on the new design over the phone or emails so I ended up sending it back. 2012 FR Surveyor Sport 295 2015 Nissan NVP 3500 SL 5.6L Tekonsha P3 / "New" Blue Ox Sway Pro |
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Posted By: gmw photos
on 03/13/13 03:18pm
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So far ( only about 10K miles ) I am not seeing any apparent wear issues where the trunnions rotate. There is a grease zerk on each trunnion. I am using the grease gun on those zerks as per the instructions, and am using an EP grease. The brackets have not moved along the frame on the trailer tongue. I just tightened the set bolts down tight, and they have not come loose and like I said, the saddles have not moved. Y'all made me curious what it all really weighs. I just took the scales out there. The head itself weighs 68 pounds, with of course the ball. The bars and chains weigh 12 pounds. I too am not real impressed with the wrench they provide to turn the chain-up brackets. Since I carry a 2 foot breaker bar ( and torque wrench ) in the toolbox anyway, I just added a socket for the brackets. EDIT: just an FYI if someone comes across and is using one of the old style heads like mine, there are four bolts on the bottom that actually capture the trunnions to the head assembly. The previously mentioned two that 'adjust' the tension for sway control, and two smaller bolts. The two smaller bolts are to have loctite applied and be torqued to 47 ft-lb. This detail was not in the original instructions that came with mine, so I emailed them to ask. They replied with a follow-up tech bulletin that gave me the spec. * This post was edited 03/13/13 03:42pm by gmw photos * |
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