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Posted: 06/04/17 12:49am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If it does have one live, you might want to also see what fuse is in it. My 03 came with a real small fuse. Charging phone and GPS was all it could handle when we got it. Turns out CA put smaller fuses in because people were plugging in everything they could. I changed it out for regular size and no more problems.

Maybe different in recent years and undersize fuse might be thing of the past...(hard to believe we've had ours 8 years)

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Mocoondo wrote:

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So I think all my questions were answered now (or I found in other threads) except for :

3.) Is there room in the CA 23A to add in an inverter and additional batteries / solar?


You would probably have to remove the generator and/or do some significant modifications. The battery box fits a single Group 32 battery. Also, the configuration of the roof with three vent domes, shower dome, sewer vents(x2), fridge vent, RTAC leave very little contiguous real estate left for an array of solar panels substantial enough to offer any benefit.

You have to remember that these vehicles are purpose built for a rental mission and are designed with economy already in mind. There is plenty of opportunity to modify if you are creative, but the cost to do such modifications will greatly outweigh the benefit in very short order.


Bghouse, I have the exact same items on top of my Sunseeker 2300. I installed 2x 100 watt and 2x 50 watt panels, each far enough away from objects so as not be shaded at a 45 degree angle. I could have put quite a bit more up front where the antenna could shade them if it was cranked up. 300 watts does an EXCELLENT job for my two batteries.

If you search posts older than one year, Tech Forum, my username, keyword solar, you should find a post showing the sketch I drew of my roof. It shows how to plan the locations where you can put solar without too much shading. I am confident the 23A would have enough usable space.


Currently RV-less but not done yet.

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bghouse wrote:

kirbymurphy wrote:

bghouse wrote:

So I think all my questions were answered now (or I found in other threads) except for :

3.) Is there room in the CA 23A to add in an inverter and additional batteries / solar?

Any space you want to give up is space for batteries and inverter. In an exterior storage compartment, under a sink, in or under a cabinet, etc. Just remember you'd like to be close to the generator or mains panel to tie in. Is one battery enough or do you need four? It's all a tradeoff


Thank you. Since I need to be able to work, I think the inverter is going to be something I must put in. Need to keep thinking....


Did a bit more poking around and found several posts that mounting inside the cabin is not a good idea due to outgassing. Several mentioned that it has been done successfully when vented properly, but unless one is an expert it's not recommended.

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Okay so, I'm new to this thread. We just recently purchased a Thor/ Majestic 23A from cruise America. So far we love it. Have only one issue so far and that's the hot water heater. I've yet to look at it, probably will today.


drumz, welcome to the Former Rental Club! You will be #91.[image]

I hope you get your hot water heater and black tank problems solved.


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Bghouse, I have the exact same items on top of my Sunseeker 2300. I installed 2x 100 watt and 2x 50 watt panels, each far enough away from objects so as not be shaded at a 45 degree angle. I could have put quite a bit more up front where the antenna could shade them if it was cranked up. 300 watts does an EXCELLENT job for my two batteries.

If you search posts older than one year, Tech Forum, my username, keyword solar, you should find a post showing the sketch I drew of my roof. It shows how to plan the locations where you can put solar without too much shading. I am confident the 23A would have enough usable space.


Hi Snowman9000 - is the Sunseeker 2300 the same as the Cruise America Thor Majestic 23A? The Thor Majestic seems to be the only model at CA at this time.

I'll definitely go read up more on the solar, but I'm concerned on the single battery and lack of inverter. I will probably start at campgrounds, so don't want to be running a generator and annoying neighbors to be able to get onto my laptop and work. Then I'll eventually try some boondocking also - but even the simple "I need to park overnight at this Casino" still has me needing to get online with my laptop.

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Did a bit more poking around and found several posts that mounting inside the cabin is not a good idea due to outgassing. Several mentioned that it has been done successfully when vented properly, but unless one is an expert it's not recommended.


Kirby,

Look into AGM type batteries. As far as I know they don't need venting.

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Photomike wrote:

Mocoondo wrote:

Not "reconditioned" to your satisfaction? Well why did you buy it then? Were you forced or coerced? The only included warranty is one of limited powertrain...engine, trans, rear axle. An aftermarket service contract is available for purchase.


No but I did drive 3 hours for the unit that I was told would be reconditioned, took the day off work and my wife took the day off as well to do that - I was just hoping that they would have lived up to what they advertise and the fact I was told the extra keys would be here in a month. The repairs were easy for meto do as there were not a lot but someone that was not comfortable in doing them would have been in trouble.



For me it's about the salesman selling me an RV that is unfit to drive. It needed new brakes, new shocks and a serious front end alignment. These items should have been replaced during refurbishing process. It was a danger to drive.

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I'll definitely go read up more on the solar, but I'm concerned on the single battery and lack of inverter. I will probably start at campgrounds, so don't want to be running a generator and annoying neighbors to be able to get onto my laptop and work. Then I'll eventually try some boondocking also - but even the simple "I need to park overnight at this Casino" still has me needing to get online with my laptop.

That is one advantage of buying a production line RV,they come with 2 batteries and room inside to mount a converter along with roof space for solar.
I would suggest that you visit each lot and look them over. You said you are in Baja, both companies have dealerships in the LA area,check them out when you come north.

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That is one advantage of buying a production line RV,they come with 2 batteries and room inside to mount a converter along with roof space for solar.
I would suggest that you visit each lot and look them over. You said you are in Baja, both companies have dealerships in the LA area,check them out when you come north.


Thanks IAMICHABOD - yeah, I was just re-reading and seeing that. Currently just looking at the websites - the CA prices are lower than comparable age ones at El Monte. So i was trying to figure out what was possible on the CA units to meet what I believe I will need, before ruling out and accepting the higher prices. :-)

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510dogmom wrote:

I'm looking a a small trickle charger for the engine battery. Does the CA 23A have an always live cigarette lighter socket? If so, can anyone recommend a plug in trickle charger that has a charge controller? Also, I use a CPAP machine and wondere if there is a way to use it when boondocking. Do I have to have a inverter? If the cigarette socket is live, I think I can use a 12 volt adapter for it.

I need trickle chargers in winter because we have several vehicles and one or two get very little use. I bought several automatic shutoff motorcycle ones on eBay at $5 that work well except the cord insulation fails in our cold weather. I put new cords on mine but it was a tricky little job. My most recent purchase was a $15 one at a discount auto store. No problems with it. I don't think the auto shutoff or charge controller feature is necessary because the current is well under an amp and does no harm to the battery if left on for a day or two. In my situation a battery cutoff switch fastened to one of the battery posts solves the problem of the parasitic draw discharging the battery when not used for a week or more.

We recently bought a used wheelchair van which had a trickle charger installed permanently with a power cord hanging out the front. This is very handy.

I would suggest connecting your CPAP machine to the house battery rather than the engine battery; that way you won't be left unable to start the engine and can use solar charging. Use an adapter (small inverter) and cigarette lighter type connector. If the house battery can't handle the job add a second one.


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