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IAMICHABOD

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Welcome to the club! [image]

Ill add you to the roster.


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Anyone have an idea of what type of costs to expect to service the Onan 4000? I does start right up but runs rough. He did say the oil was low in it.


The fact that it runs means it probably needs a good tune up. I would personally get it over to an Onan authorized service center for a thorough inspection and service. Probably a couple hundred bucks well spent.





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Mocoondo wrote:

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Anyone have an idea of what type of costs to expect to service the Onan 4000? I does start right up but runs rough. He did say the oil was low in it.


The fact that it runs means it probably needs a good tune up. I would personally get it over to an Onan authorized service center for a thorough inspection and service. Probably a couple hundred bucks well spent.


Thanks Mocoondo, I appreciate the guidance. I just talked to a mobile RV repair guy that's been around 10+ years. He has contracted to do work on CA RV's in the past so knows them very well. He's also Onan Certified. (Also has 21 reviews on his company's Facebook page and they are all 5 stars so he sounds legit).

I told him my Onan 4000 has 1,300 hours on it. He is suggesting a rebuild with new fuel pump, etc. Quoted a price of $950. He said he could just do a tune-up but that the generator would not perform at peak condition.

I'd appreciate feedback. $950 seems high...

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socal77 wrote:

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rebuild with new fuel pump, etc. Quoted a price of $950. He said he could just do a tune-up but that the generator would not perform at peak condition.

I'd appreciate feedback. $950 seems high...


I'm not sure about the price, but I'm not sure it needs a fuel pump at those hours, unless fuel pressure or fuel flow were tested and found to be low.

The Onan Marquis Gold 5500 in my former El Monte has over 3300 hours on it. From the El Monte service record, it appears to have had the fuel pump replaced at 3062 hours:

GEN-ENG-PUMP-O-GENERA,PUMP FUEL 5.5 HGJAB GENERATOR,1,177.96

I'm not sure what the first part means (could be an oil pump), the second is clearly fuel pump, and no idea about HGJAB, either. The number at the end is the price billed to the fleet department by the service department.

It also had that same major service when it was almost new (65 hours), so it sounds like the thing blew up when it was brand new. It also had a lot of diagnostics done at 94 hours. From then until 3062, it had only routine scheduled maintenance (and was well cared for). That major service was probably earlier in the year I bought it (they go by hours/miles, not calendar date), so I expect it to have a long and healthy life. I run it at least once a month, per the manual.

It doesn't mention having had the carb rebuilt, but it starts easily and runs well, so it may have been done at some point.

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I am not sure about the fuel pump but a rebuild at those hrs does not seem unreasonable for a single cylinder, splash lubricated, air cooled engine. Is the 5500 gold a pressure lubed (oil filter) twin cylinder or water cooled.
The price quoted compared to the new price for that gen set also seems in line. A replacement will cost at least 3k if you install it yourself.


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Is the 5500 gold a pressure lubed (oil filter) twin cylinder or water cooled.


It's a V-2, pressurized oil, forced-air cooled. Turns out the HGJAB is part of the Cummins model number of the generator.

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Being cheap, I'd try some Seafoam, and oil change, and a new fuel pump


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Thanks Mocoondo, I appreciate the guidance. I just talked to a mobile RV repair guy that's been around 10+ years. He has contracted to do work on CA RV's in the past so knows them very well. He's also Onan Certified. (Also has 21 reviews on his company's Facebook page and they are all 5 stars so he sounds legit).

I told him my Onan 4000 has 1,300 hours on it. He is suggesting a rebuild with new fuel pump, etc. Quoted a price of $950. He said he could just do a tune-up but that the generator would not perform at peak condition.

I'd appreciate feedback. $950 seems high...


Rebuild the entire generator?

Seems a bit excessive to suggest that sort of a need without actually performing a diagnosis. 1,300 hours is not a lot of hours in the grand scheme of things. I have seen them with 3,000+ still running strong.

I still contend that if it is running, there is nothing major wrong with it. Consider a tuneup and a new fuel filter and go from there. I can tell you from experience that the fuel filter is almost always neglected on those units because it is in a horrible location for ease of changing. I've seen units with 1,000+ hours on them still running the original fuel filter.

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I wouldn't spend money on a rebuilt unless a compression test showed numbers below spec or there is an internal failure. Rough running caused by a dirty carb, air filter or? can and should be resolved first before a rebuild should be considered. The hours you describe on the unit doesn't seem excessive.I bet you have a minor problem.





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Hi guys, I decided I'll change the oil myself in my 2009 Four Winds Majestic 28A with the Ford E450 V10.

I'd appreciate recommendations on type and brand of oil and filter. I know the oil cap recommends 5W-20. So far from the research I've done online many people recommend Mobil-1 synthetic.

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