Michael111 wrote:
I have no idea if all of my plans will work out , but at a cost of $150 for the entire inner skin i have no problem ripping it out next summer and try something new.
I have no idea if all of my plans will work out , but at a cost of $150 for the entire inner skin i have no problem ripping it out next summer and try something new.
Well, you're a braver or more determined fellow than I, Michael. I'm definitely in the "do it once, do it as well as I can" program in my rebuild. I hate having to do things over again...my short attention span makes me too impatient. I admire your flexibility. You're on track to answer some worthwhile questions for me about replacing the inner skin with a new skin, insulating the ribs from the inner skin, and how about the slide out kitchen...? Let's hear that idea.
Onward
Dick
67avion wrote:
I return home energized by our trips. It's great to share our experiences as well in trip reports. I'm sure you've heard me banging the table for an Avion caravan. If you like we can all meet on the outcrop of Muley Point, Utah, and travel from there. Fair warning: the views may cause fainting spells.
I return home energized by our trips. It's great to share our experiences as well in trip reports. I'm sure you've heard me banging the table for an Avion caravan. If you like we can all meet on the outcrop of Muley Point, Utah, and travel from there. Fair warning: the views may cause fainting spells.
Muley Point in May of 2015! I should be ready for the road by then. Sign me up!
Dick
Michael dont you know better than to use Luan for that! Just kidding, use what ever
you want. We all love being experts around here and
even occassionally giving good advice. I do want to see
a less than 5k complete Avion TC rebuild, though.
I am still deep in the perverbial substance and
just when I think I have a handle on the plumbing
I come across something like this and it all starts
to make sense!
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Thanks 69 I like your dinette, but just like
D1s 28x32, I need some place to stow
Sweet Jane and the kids. D1 you may just have
something with the composite panals, I just
dont have your welding abilities. I have the Lagun
arm but I still need to make the table top
a more reasonable size. Two leaves could
be slid over the bench seats gaucho style leaving the
center for the lowered table top.
That drawing is starting to make sense again, so I
best end it here for now!
D1trout wrote:
Well, you're a braver or more determined fellow than I, Michael. I'm definitely in the "do it once, do it as well as I can" program in my rebuild. I hate having to do things over again...my short attention span makes me too impatient. I admire your flexibility. You're on track to answer some worthwhile questions for me about replacing the inner skin with a new skin, insulating the ribs from the inner skin, and how about the slide out kitchen...? Let's hear that idea.
Onward
Dick
Michael111 wrote:
I have no idea if all of my plans will work out , but at a cost of $150 for the entire inner skin i have no problem ripping it out next summer and try something new.
I have no idea if all of my plans will work out , but at a cost of $150 for the entire inner skin i have no problem ripping it out next summer and try something new.
Well, you're a braver or more determined fellow than I, Michael. I'm definitely in the "do it once, do it as well as I can" program in my rebuild. I hate having to do things over again...my short attention span makes me too impatient. I admire your flexibility. You're on track to answer some worthwhile questions for me about replacing the inner skin with a new skin, insulating the ribs from the inner skin, and how about the slide out kitchen...? Let's hear that idea.
Onward
Dick
yes,i have to be flexible and be able to change directions at a moments notice otherwise i would not make it a week.... , my second job ( or the first) is teaching the art of Special Effects Make-up on a University level for the Film and Theater Industry. In this i never do the same thing over and i am constantly bombarded with new challenges.
Anyway.....slide out kitchen idea....
since i don't have a black water tank on he passenger side anymore
i thought by modifying the belly pan, basically cutting out all of the
indentations and re-fiberglasing it to be straight i would create a great rectangular space to hide a slide out kitchen.
Cutting in a door, not unlike on the driver side, but the full side.
I am thinking of suspending the glide system from the reinforced floor. Total size maybe 4 to 5 feet keeping some room for a possible gray water tank on the driver side for the future.
i will try to come up with a sketch/ drawing in the next few days
got the inspiration from here
http://www.kimberleygroup.com.au/off-road-camper-trailers
those guys are tricked out and if finances would not be an issue i definitely would incorporate most of their technology
I will definitely look into the insulating tape/weatherstripping to give additional insulation
the wood currently at 1/8 thickness gives about a 20 degree difference
which is not bad.
Starting to re-build the wing today
D1trout wrote:
Muley Point in May of 2015! I should be ready for the road by then. Sign me up!
Muley Point in May of 2015! I should be ready for the road by then. Sign me up!
The Avionista Caravan is forming.........
cajunavion wrote:
Howdy!
I am knee deep in $hit and frankly a little tired
thinking about it. What do yall think about
macerator pumps. The plan I am contemplating
would put a macerator right below the toilet.
and then with interesting valving dump either
into a transfer tank, as yet to be determined, or
out through a simple 3/4 inch water hose. The
gray and transfer tank(black) could also be
plumb and valved to the macerator intake allowing
a discharge of a varity of things as needs change and
clean the system.
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Howdy!
I am knee deep in $hit and frankly a little tired
thinking about it. What do yall think about
macerator pumps. The plan I am contemplating
would put a macerator right below the toilet.
and then with interesting valving dump either
into a transfer tank, as yet to be determined, or
out through a simple 3/4 inch water hose. The
gray and transfer tank(black) could also be
plumb and valved to the macerator intake allowing
a discharge of a varity of things as needs change and
clean the system.
![[image]](http://s1014.photobucket.com/user/cajunavion/media/96ADBB75-BDD8-4486-BC61-841FC68E2723_zpshjmnz7ac.png.html)
Macerator pumps are more widely used on boats than RVs. There are some things to bear in mind:
1) They will clog and jam on tampons and on any rags or scraps of cloth that are inadvertently flushed.
2) They are heavy and produce vibration. Be sure that they're properly supported by something other than the piping, and use flexible connections to avoid damaging the piping from vibration.
3) They fail fairly often with the marine crowd reporting that replacement every 1-2 years is not uncommon. Plan your piping so that there is good access for replacement.
4) They draw a good deal of power, around 20a, so size your wiring and switch accordingly.
I considered going this route and ultimately decided against. I do have a "sewer solution" -- the water-jet powered macerator type pump -- which I use when dumping at home where I have city water available and a slight uphill run to the drain.
Another possibility to consider is a "shower pump" -- for greywater only. There are some clog-resistant diaphragm pumps that look promising for this.
1971 Cayo C-11 truck camper, 2010 Airstream Classic, 1997 Chevrolet K2500, 2004 Chevrolet Suburban 2500 8.1.
67avion wrote:
The Avionista Caravan is forming.........
D1trout wrote:
Muley Point in May of 2015! I should be ready for the road by then. Sign me up!
Muley Point in May of 2015! I should be ready for the road by then. Sign me up!
The Avionista Caravan is forming.........
A year out. I may be able to convince Shirley to head up to the mountains (I guess. Is that right?) with me by then. My dear wife is a confirmed flat-lander.
See y'all on the roads, or in the parks.
tonyj & Shirley
'66 AVION C-10
'86 F-250 6.9 DIESEL
KJ4OEQ 146.520MHz
CB Channel 7
67avion wrote:
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67,
What did you change about your front window? Is that a one piece glass? Aluminum? Did you have it custom fabricated? It looks like it is solid one piece now? Is it dual or single pane? I never noticed it before, that your C-10 did not have the split front window. I looks more akin to the C-11 tinted window...
Thanks again!
Garry
Garry K
Wife + 4 kids
Retired Military Family.... Alway's on the move....
2002 F350 CCSB 5.4 6spd 4x4 in AK
1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper
My Avion came like that. It appears that the original split window was removed and another installed. In the photos it may be that the aluminum blinds may reflect the sun in odd ways.
By the way, Garry. After we start the Avionista Caravan at Muley Point in Utah the next stop will be Kodiak Alaska. That's right...
67avion wrote:
Hi Garry,
My Avion came like that. It appears that the original split window was removed and another installed. In the photos it may be that the aluminum blinds may reflect the sun in odd ways.
By the way, Garry. After we start the Avionista Caravan at Muley Point in Utah the next stop will be Kodiak Alaska. That's right...
Hi Garry,
My Avion came like that. It appears that the original split window was removed and another installed. In the photos it may be that the aluminum blinds may reflect the sun in odd ways.
By the way, Garry. After we start the Avionista Caravan at Muley Point in Utah the next stop will be Kodiak Alaska. That's right...
Well, showed Shirley some pictures of Muley Point. As expected, she says "Thank you for the invite. If you ever decide to trek towards the Big Bend area of Florida down near the Gulf of Mexico, or better yet, down to the Keys, I'm all over it!" Flatlander. Yeah.