67avion wrote:
Hi Garry,
My Avion came like that. It appears that the original split window was removed and another installed. In the photos it may be that the aluminum blinds may reflect the sun in odd ways.
By the way, Garry. After we start the Avionista Caravan at Muley Point in Utah the next stop will be Kodiak Alaska. That's right...
Hi Garry,
My Avion came like that. It appears that the original split window was removed and another installed. In the photos it may be that the aluminum blinds may reflect the sun in odd ways.
By the way, Garry. After we start the Avionista Caravan at Muley Point in Utah the next stop will be Kodiak Alaska. That's right...
Your all welcome for a visit! Just realize that the ferry from Homer to Kodiak only sails a few times each week, and has to have reservations made well in advance... unless you walk on... The joys of living on an Island in Alaska!!!
Garry
Garry K
Wife + 4 kids
Retired Military Family.... Alway's on the move....
2002 F350 CCSB 5.4 6spd 4x4 in AK
1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper
Jammer your correct on all points on macerator pumps. The RVers who
have them rave about them. You reduce your waste to
a liquid that can travel pressurized through a
3/4 inch garden hose! Bye bye 3 inch dirty slinky.
They plumb with a 1.5 inch pipe and self prime.
The real advantage here is that you can dispose
of the waste just about anywhere including
flush toilets. They weigh around 3 lbs. and
the yacht guys have used them for years, it is
a tried and trued technoloy. It would be easy to
replace one at home, and you could keep your
standard hook ups for an emergency. 10 years
plus seems the average RV life since we are not
flushing salt water through them.
The reason I hit upon them is a lack of
useable black tank space in back, this would
let me put my tank anywhere, and it would also
allow me to pump the gray tank out as well with well
designed valving. Anyone up for some really wild
plumbing?
cajunavion wrote:
Howdy!
Jammer your correct on all points on macerator pumps. The RVers who
have them rave about them. You reduce your waste to
a liquid that can travel pressurized through a
3/4 inch garden hose! Bye bye 3 inch dirty slinky.
They plumb with a 1.5 inch pipe and self prime.
The real advantage here is that you can dispose
of the waste just about anywhere including
flush toilets. They weigh around 3 lbs. and
the yacht guys have used them for years, it is
a tried and trued technoloy. It would be easy to
replace one at home, and you could keep your
standard hook ups for an emergency. 10 years
plus seems the average RV life since we are not
flushing salt water through them.
The reason I hit upon them is a lack of
useable black tank space in back, this would
let me put my tank anywhere, and it would also
allow me to pump the gray tank out as well with well
designed valving. Anyone up for some really wild
plumbing?
Howdy!
Jammer your correct on all points on macerator pumps. The RVers who
have them rave about them. You reduce your waste to
a liquid that can travel pressurized through a
3/4 inch garden hose! Bye bye 3 inch dirty slinky.
They plumb with a 1.5 inch pipe and self prime.
The real advantage here is that you can dispose
of the waste just about anywhere including
flush toilets. They weigh around 3 lbs. and
the yacht guys have used them for years, it is
a tried and trued technoloy. It would be easy to
replace one at home, and you could keep your
standard hook ups for an emergency. 10 years
plus seems the average RV life since we are not
flushing salt water through them.
The reason I hit upon them is a lack of
useable black tank space in back, this would
let me put my tank anywhere, and it would also
allow me to pump the gray tank out as well with well
designed valving. Anyone up for some really wild
plumbing?
It doesn't get much crazier than plumbing a Submarine.... Did that for 23 years...
Garry
cajunavion wrote:
Howdy!
Jammer your correct on all points on macerator pumps. The RVers who
have them rave about them. You reduce your waste to
a liquid that can travel pressurized through a
3/4 inch garden hose! Bye bye 3 inch dirty slinky.
They plumb with a 1.5 inch pipe and self prime.
The real advantage here is that you can dispose
of the waste just about anywhere including
flush toilets. They weigh around 3 lbs. and
the yacht guys have used them for years, it is
a tried and trued technoloy. It would be easy to
replace one at home, and you could keep your
standard hook ups for an emergency. 10 years
plus seems the average RV life since we are not
flushing salt water through them.
The reason I hit upon them is a lack of
useable black tank space in back, this would
let me put my tank anywhere, and it would also
allow me to pump the gray tank out as well with well
designed valving. Anyone up for some really wild
plumbing?
Howdy!
Jammer your correct on all points on macerator pumps. The RVers who
have them rave about them. You reduce your waste to
a liquid that can travel pressurized through a
3/4 inch garden hose! Bye bye 3 inch dirty slinky.
They plumb with a 1.5 inch pipe and self prime.
The real advantage here is that you can dispose
of the waste just about anywhere including
flush toilets. They weigh around 3 lbs. and
the yacht guys have used them for years, it is
a tried and trued technoloy. It would be easy to
replace one at home, and you could keep your
standard hook ups for an emergency. 10 years
plus seems the average RV life since we are not
flushing salt water through them.
The reason I hit upon them is a lack of
useable black tank space in back, this would
let me put my tank anywhere, and it would also
allow me to pump the gray tank out as well with well
designed valving. Anyone up for some really wild
plumbing?
Perhaps I missed something but I didn't take Jammers comments as a glowing endorsement .
'68 Avion C-11
'02 GMC DRW D/A flatbed
I am onboard with the submariner!
Here's a first napkin idea. This all lives
in the right rear bustle. The gray and transfer
tanks are in the belly basement. Now a first question:
can I use a single line for the transfer tank: both
fill and discharge with a 3 way valve?
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Hope this helps.
Garry
I really don't understand plumbing, so simplicity is my byword. I hope that the scheme advanced by Cajun works well, as well as the other ideas for retrofitted cassette toilets. I can only speak for my installation that is located somewhere in this string....way back. I repaired the black water tank to OEM standards. Our use of it has been completely satisfactory with the issues of odor and sanitation well resolved.
We plumbed a graywater reservoir that was SEPARATE from the black water. We fashioned the "tank" out of 3" pipe, wrapped back and forth with its own discharge. Garry is correct that the grey water should flush the blackwater line - however there is not enough room under the bustle to accomplish that. In practice there has not been any real problem except that my graywater capacity is lower than I would prefer.
Flushing the blackwater is easy enough with a separate hose. We try to have as short a connection to a dump as possible since the cleaning and storage of the hose is a bit of a problem.
What this discussion proves, however, is how valuable this string is to open experimentation and improvement of these coaches. The last thing anyone wants is to discourage our Avionistas from taking their ideas and running with them.
So, go for the macerator and go for the cassette and write it up. We're all interested.
* This post was last edited 06/04/14 02:08pm by 67avion *
If you're just pumping greywater, a shower pump like the Whale Gulper 220 is going to be a better choice than a macerator. Lighter, smaller, less power, faster flow, more reliable.
For blackwater you need a 3" gravity discharge line to deal with clogs. The marine guys get away with 1.5" because they use toilets with a 1.5" discharge and macerator features of their own instead of rv toilets with a 3" discharge. Sure you can use a 1.5" line to the macerator and it will usually work but if your grandkid flushes a great big ball of TP or a pair of underwear then what.
With that said the space taken by 3" plumbing is considerable and the availability of things like 3-way valves in this size is limited; what is out there is high buck. So I would suggest keeping it simple. You can use a short section of dump hose to connect the macerator inlet to the gravity drain and save yourself some complicated valving and piping. At which point you might want to use 3" cam lock fittings for your gravity dump connection instead of the more common valterra bayonet as the cam locks do not require turning the hose to lock it.
1971 Cayo C-11 truck camper, 2010 Airstream Classic, 1997 Chevrolet K2500, 2004 Chevrolet Suburban 2500 8.1.
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