67avion wrote:
Garry,
You mentioned that you had covered your "heater hole" in the back of the camper. When I got mine there had been a similar mod:
![[image]](http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx38/dgorton/backup-light.jpg)
Of all things, I was looking at some site in Germany where they restore and sell vintage TCs, especially Airstream. In one of the photos I spotted what appeared to be a backup light in that same spot. So, with that inspiration I did the same thing:
![[image]](http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx38/dgorton/backup-light1.jpg)
Garry,
You mentioned that you had covered your "heater hole" in the back of the camper. When I got mine there had been a similar mod:
Of all things, I was looking at some site in Germany where they restore and sell vintage TCs, especially Airstream. In one of the photos I spotted what appeared to be a backup light in that same spot. So, with that inspiration I did the same thing:
This camper I found has backup lights like that in the picture, one on each side of the door, That's whats blowing my fuse in my truck when I touched the brown wire to the center pin, are these old lights drawing to much juice for the fuse to handle? I wonder what size fuse I should go with?
1969 AVION
3/4 12 VALVE
Freightliner/24' Flatbed 50,000 miles/ Titan 4000 receiver Hitch, no Mods needed.
Desertboy wrote:
What size fuse should I need for my backup lights on the avion? Its blowing fuses when I connect backup lights. That's usually means something is drawing more juice than the fuse can handle right? My guess is its these Old backup lights on back of avion camper, No doubt they were made long before these new fuses were invented. Im searching the thread but if anyone reads this and knows the answer please post it.
What size fuse should I need for my backup lights on the avion? Its blowing fuses when I connect backup lights. That's usually means something is drawing more juice than the fuse can handle right? My guess is its these Old backup lights on back of avion camper, No doubt they were made long before these new fuses were invented. Im searching the thread but if anyone reads this and knows the answer please post it.
Lights, even the old ones, don't normally draw enough current to blow fuses. What size fuse do you have?
Also, may I suggest that you use an ohm meter with a buzzer to check the continuity of your backup lights. I would take the backup light circuit and see if it is shorted out somewhere to the other wires on your camper plug. Also, check inside the camper plug to see if it is shorted out there.
Ford F-350 4x4 Diesel
1988 Avion Triple Axle Trailer
1969 Avion C-11 Camper
69 Avion wrote:
Lights, even the old ones, don't normally draw enough current to blow fuses. What size fuse do you have?
Also, may I suggest that you use an ohm meter with a buzzer to check the continuity of your backup lights. I would take the backup light circuit and see if it is shorted out somewhere to the other wires on your camper plug. Also, check inside the camper plug to see if it is shorted out there.
Desertboy wrote:
What size fuse should I need for my backup lights on the avion? Its blowing fuses when I connect backup lights. That's usually means something is drawing more juice than the fuse can handle right? My guess is its these Old backup lights on back of avion camper, No doubt they were made long before these new fuses were invented. Im searching the thread but if anyone reads this and knows the answer please post it.
What size fuse should I need for my backup lights on the avion? Its blowing fuses when I connect backup lights. That's usually means something is drawing more juice than the fuse can handle right? My guess is its these Old backup lights on back of avion camper, No doubt they were made long before these new fuses were invented. Im searching the thread but if anyone reads this and knows the answer please post it.
Lights, even the old ones, don't normally draw enough current to blow fuses. What size fuse do you have?
Also, may I suggest that you use an ohm meter with a buzzer to check the continuity of your backup lights. I would take the backup light circuit and see if it is shorted out somewhere to the other wires on your camper plug. Also, check inside the camper plug to see if it is shorted out there.
X2 on the meter.
Also the fast blinking indicates a short. Or incomplete circuit. Especially if you are getting a different light blinking when the correct one is blinking too, it can be a poor ground. The one light is using another as its ground. I have chased electrical woes for as many years as I have been driving and before, in trailers, RV's and cars. And what you described sounds all too like a poor ground. Try Pulling the fixture that is acting up, and provide a solid ground, and then see if the positive wire has 12V when you think it should with a meter. If both are good, then it might be the fixture, but it usually ends up to be either a bad ground, a grounded positive, or an open in the positive.
Good luck. Just be systematic.
Garry in AK
Garry K
Wife + 4 kids
Retired Military Family.... Alway's on the move....
2002 F350 CCSB 5.4 6spd 4x4 in AK
1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper
I converted all my lights to LED's that are of similar size and shape to the originals. This allowed me to seal the lights well too, to ensure no leaks.
Keep up the good work! You'll get it, eventually.
Garry
garryk6 wrote:
Hi! And Welcome to the Forum/Thread. I looked alot of places when I bought my 1966 C-10, but rapidly found this the best place for Truck Camper info. There are a few other places that are more active, but primarily for trailers. When this thread started a while ago, it was deemed that an Avion Camper thread would be a great way to preserve ideas and information in a one-stop-shopping arena. I don't think any of us expected it to grow this large!
As to you question of the All Aluminum "Tub", I personally thing that this is the only way to go. But when I bought my gutted out C-10, the floor and wings and bunk were already completely re-done in wood. And for Cabinetry, all I had were the two overhead side cabinets and doors. So from pictures here and other sites, I was able to rebuild mine close to a stock configuration, but altered to fit my needs.
If you have the time, money and patience, I would say to go for it!!! I know that when my wood goes away the next time that that is what I'll do. Then I can make a basement model with holding tanks under the floor up front and add some storage to the rear!
Just some ideas!
Garry in Alaska
D1trout wrote:
It seems to me that perhaps removing the entire floor, wings, the vertical sides of the wings, and the bulkhead at the front of the camper and replacing all those parts with an aluminum floor, wings, sides and bulkhead might be a particularly effective way to both eliminate the concern about rotted wood, to stabilize the entire structure, and, when all seams are recaulked, to eliminate or minimize leaks.
To not have any wood in the rig except cabinets would be a boon; water might get in but wouldn't cause any damage. The rig would be rigid on the new metal foundation and thus more easily and effectively sealed. I'm imagining aluminum tube/pipe could be used for the outer frame to accommodate the curved lower edge of the body. The original horizontal panels could be reinstalled over the new frame to restore the classic look.
I'm certain I'm not the first Avion owner to come to this. I would welcome observations/ideas/suggestions on this approach.
It seems to me that perhaps removing the entire floor, wings, the vertical sides of the wings, and the bulkhead at the front of the camper and replacing all those parts with an aluminum floor, wings, sides and bulkhead might be a particularly effective way to both eliminate the concern about rotted wood, to stabilize the entire structure, and, when all seams are recaulked, to eliminate or minimize leaks.
To not have any wood in the rig except cabinets would be a boon; water might get in but wouldn't cause any damage. The rig would be rigid on the new metal foundation and thus more easily and effectively sealed. I'm imagining aluminum tube/pipe could be used for the outer frame to accommodate the curved lower edge of the body. The original horizontal panels could be reinstalled over the new frame to restore the classic look.
I'm certain I'm not the first Avion owner to come to this. I would welcome observations/ideas/suggestions on this approach.
Hi! And Welcome to the Forum/Thread. I looked alot of places when I bought my 1966 C-10, but rapidly found this the best place for Truck Camper info. There are a few other places that are more active, but primarily for trailers. When this thread started a while ago, it was deemed that an Avion Camper thread would be a great way to preserve ideas and information in a one-stop-shopping arena. I don't think any of us expected it to grow this large!
As to you question of the All Aluminum "Tub", I personally thing that this is the only way to go. But when I bought my gutted out C-10, the floor and wings and bunk were already completely re-done in wood. And for Cabinetry, all I had were the two overhead side cabinets and doors. So from pictures here and other sites, I was able to rebuild mine close to a stock configuration, but altered to fit my needs.
If you have the time, money and patience, I would say to go for it!!! I know that when my wood goes away the next time that that is what I'll do. Then I can make a basement model with holding tanks under the floor up front and add some storage to the rear!
Just some ideas!
Garry in Alaska
Garry, I am seriously pursuing the idea of an all-aluminum tub. It raises a number if interesting issues. Foremost at the moment is how to lift the upper part of the camper off the existing tub and suspend it so the original tub can be duplicated in aluminum before being set back down and (presumably) welded together. What do you think of the idea of putting a broad nylon sling strap under the sleeper, back against the main body, and putting a 2x12, suitably padded, through the back set of windows and hoisting the body up enough to free the original tub? Without any interior cabinetry or appliances, it seems the upper body would be less than 1000#...?
And does welding the new tub to the sides, that is, the ribs, seem a good solution?
Grateful for your -and any other's - suggestions. I've pretty much convinced myself it's the way to go, but I really need to discuss it with a competent aluminum fabricator.