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rfuerst911sc wrote:
I have not been able to find any used Avion LP tanks but did come across this 20 lb. cylinder. This would leave some room in the C11 LP bottle box to store small items. Any problems/concerns using this bottle ? Seems somewhat reasonable in price. Depending on what fridge I go with I may just be using LP for the stove/oven and water heater.
http://www.adventurerv.net/propane-gas-horizontal-tank-p-8390.html?osCsid=rl93pa5p9hdod0at3a5k3bcsq6
I have not been able to find any used Avion LP tanks but did come across this 20 lb. cylinder. This would leave some room in the C11 LP bottle box to store small items. Any problems/concerns using this bottle ? Seems somewhat reasonable in price. Depending on what fridge I go with I may just be using LP for the stove/oven and water heater.
http://www.adventurerv.net/propane-gas-horizontal-tank-p-8390.html?osCsid=rl93pa5p9hdod0at3a5k3bcsq6
Horizontal tank
I have this exact tank in my C10. I use my old propane storage area for my power cord and the tripod feet for my jacks. This tank I built a box behind the refrigerator door and placed this tank in there. It is a tight fit for me, and I have to pull the tank out to have it filled. But that is not very often since it only feeds my stove and heater, and maybe some day I will get the line run to my gas light... I have liked the gauge, though it is not completely accurate, but I have never ran out.
Hope this helps!
Garry
Garry K
Wife + 4 kids
Retired Military Family.... Alway's on the move....
2002 F350 CCSB 5.4 6spd 4x4 in AK
1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper
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60s/70s Ford truck silver hubcap. Bolt through middle and seal around edges... will update once it's on...
Ford F-350 4x4 Diesel
1988 Avion Triple Axle Trailer
1969 Avion C-11 Camper
67avion wrote:
Today I had the Avion, loaded with water, etc, and the F350 weighed at a CAT scale. They took my front axle, rear axle and total weight (with me aboard).
So, here are the results: CAT Scales
Steer axle 4660 lbs
Drive axle 5520 lbs.
Gross weight 10180 lbs.
The Ford description says that the truck has:
5200 Gross Axle Weight Rating (GAWR) on the front axle.
The GAWR on the rear axle is 6830.
So it can handle 12,030 lbs of Gross weight, if I understand these things. And it looks like I'm well within bounds.
I think, if I recall correctly, that my F350 diesel weighs around 8200 pounds with me on board. If my numbers are correct, then the camper weighs around 1980 pounds (10180 loaded minus 8100 unloaded).
However, even with what appears to be plenty of room in terms of weight, the truck sits low in the rear (to my eye) and there is a little bit of a rolling feeling from side to side when its underway. Braking is terrific so far, as is acceleration.
Anyone else have any wisdom about this? It looks like the Avion TC is one of the lightest for its size. No?
Today I had the Avion, loaded with water, etc, and the F350 weighed at a CAT scale. They took my front axle, rear axle and total weight (with me aboard).
So, here are the results: CAT Scales
Steer axle 4660 lbs
Drive axle 5520 lbs.
Gross weight 10180 lbs.
The Ford description says that the truck has:
5200 Gross Axle Weight Rating (GAWR) on the front axle.
The GAWR on the rear axle is 6830.
So it can handle 12,030 lbs of Gross weight, if I understand these things. And it looks like I'm well within bounds.
I think, if I recall correctly, that my F350 diesel weighs around 8200 pounds with me on board. If my numbers are correct, then the camper weighs around 1980 pounds (10180 loaded minus 8100 unloaded).
However, even with what appears to be plenty of room in terms of weight, the truck sits low in the rear (to my eye) and there is a little bit of a rolling feeling from side to side when its underway. Braking is terrific so far, as is acceleration.
Anyone else have any wisdom about this? It looks like the Avion TC is one of the lightest for its size. No?
You didn't state what year F350 you have . Somewhere it will list what the GVWR is . The GVWR will be less than the combined GAWR so you may not have as much extra capacity as you think .
The C-10's listed weight is 1850# , it doesn't state wet or dry , I assume dry .
As an example here are some figures from my rig .
02 GMC , DRW , 4x4 , flatbed dump
front 4320#
rear 3960#
total 8280#
Truck + C-11 ( listed at 2150#)
front 4400# ( GAWR = 4800# )
rear 7220# ( GAWR = 8600# )
total 11620# ( GVWR = 12000#)
20gal water in tank + 14 gal extra , food , clothes , gear and tools ,+ 200# of man and dog , ready to camp.
Loaded camper and gear is 11620-8280 = 3340# ( have yet to weigh it dry )
And yes I consider it light for an 11 foot camper .
'68 Avion C-11
'02 GMC DRW D/A flatbed
I've noticed a lot of folks going to electric refrigerators in their campers. I must say, I was within just a few hours of doing the same, until doing a little cleaning and disassembly/reassembly on our gas unit. Then, lo and behold, its up and running, albeit taking about seven hours of time, and propane, to get down to cooling temperature. So, I guess my question is WHY change them out? Are the gas types inherently evil, or just what is the reasoning? Now, once my (intended) solar system is in place, I'll probably be more inclined towards electric, especially a two-way reefer. But it seems to me that gas would be of great benefit when not in a campground until solar is available.
But, we are very new to this, so, any advice is solicited, and will be received with gratitude.
tonyj
See y'all on the roads, or in the parks.
tonyj & Shirley
'66 AVION C-10
'86 F-250 6.9 DIESEL
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CB Channel 7
tonyj54 wrote:
Refrigerator question, if I may.
I've noticed a lot of folks going to electric refrigerators in their campers. I must say, I was within just a few hours of doing the same, until doing a little cleaning and disassembly/reassembly on our gas unit. Then, lo and behold, its up and running, albeit taking about seven hours of time, and propane, to get down to cooling temperature. So, I guess my question is WHY change them out? Are the gas types inherently evil, or just what is the reasoning? Now, once my (intended) solar system is in place, I'll probably be more inclined towards electric, especially a two-way reefer. But it seems to me that gas would be of great benefit when not in a campground until solar is available.
But, we are very new to this, so, any advice is solicited, and will be received with gratitude.
tonyj
Refrigerator question, if I may.
I've noticed a lot of folks going to electric refrigerators in their campers. I must say, I was within just a few hours of doing the same, until doing a little cleaning and disassembly/reassembly on our gas unit. Then, lo and behold, its up and running, albeit taking about seven hours of time, and propane, to get down to cooling temperature. So, I guess my question is WHY change them out? Are the gas types inherently evil, or just what is the reasoning? Now, once my (intended) solar system is in place, I'll probably be more inclined towards electric, especially a two-way reefer. But it seems to me that gas would be of great benefit when not in a campground until solar is available.
But, we are very new to this, so, any advice is solicited, and will be received with gratitude.
tonyj
Welcome to the club Tony . As to why change out the gas frig , it seems that most that have , have had one of two problems . One is that the gas frig did not cool enough in very hot weather . The other is they had problems with the gas frig or it failed . There are several threads on 12v compressor refrigerators that you should read to make up your own mind what is best for you . I am still on my original gas frig and consider 45 years pretty good service for ANY refrigerator . I spent a week in DC a few years ago at 100 degrees and it held at 40 degrees .
Gas refrigerators take several hours to cool down when first started , it's normal . If yours is working I would use it for a while to see how it performs . It looks like you could use the money for other things first .
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, think we're gonna try it for awhile, as it seems to work well once down to temp. Maybe freeze a couple of gallons of ice to set in the fridge to help in coming down to temp.