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Posted By: rfuerst911sc on 07/22/13 09:43am

Tony welcome to the club I'm restoring a 1968 C11 and am pondering what to do for a fridge. My absorption fridge was not working so I will replace it. I to am considering a 12 volt compressor fridge with the addition of solar for boondocking. But with our rounded roof corners it's not quite as easy as a flat top. Also mine has roof AC so that takes up space and you have to consider " shadows " from the AC, roof vent covers and of course trees and clouds. If I can figure out how to get 400 watts of solar on the roof I'll go with a 12 volt fridge. If I can't then I'll go with a absorption type. Good luck with your rig, you managed to do something I haven't yet.......post pics !


Posted By: sabconsulting on 07/22/13 12:16pm

Most people won't change fridge until their old one fails (i.e. the coolant leaks out). When it does you then need to make the decision which technology to go with. Compressor fridges really benefit from a good amount of solar - much easier and neater to install on a flat roofed TC than an Avion. If you boondock for days on end without electric hookup then a propane-driven absorption fridge will probably be better for you. On the other hand we offroad a lot and park at angles an absorption fridge wouldn't cope with, have solar power and are usually moving every day so the battery is charged from the truck alternator, so a compressor fridge is a better fit for us. When you eventually have to change your fridge you will have to weigh up the pros and cons and see which fits your camping style best.

Steve.


'07 Ford Ranger XLT Supercab diesel + '91 Shadow Cruiser - Sky Cruiser 1
'98 Jeep TJ 4.0
'15 Ford Fiesta ST
'09 Fiat Panda 1.2



Posted By: NJAvion on 07/22/13 04:14pm

Took off the metal plate under the rear fiberglass tub that covers the black water valve and P-trap for the shower. I am working on getting the shower pan out.

Question: what would be the best way to unscrew the nut on the ABS shower drain? Meaning, the thing in the hole in the floor here:

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Do I need to take off the whole fiberglass pan? Does somebody make a really stubby crescent wrench I could use?

Also, at first glance the underside of my black tank looks solid, a little rusting at the bottom screws but that's about it. Folks who redid their leaky tanks, how did yours look compared to this?

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Thanks all,
- Stefan


Posted By: tonyj54 on 07/22/13 10:18pm

garryk6 wrote:

For Dennis' (69cayo) question about the east west bed... We are going to do a two-piece matress, and a slider that will slide out over the two rounded corners exactly one foot. That will allow for a queen east-west bed. We also may add some storage on each end of the E/W bed...
Garry


Hey, Garry.

Did you ever get the Q/S mattress with the slider idea to work? We have our '66 set up for Shirley to sleep up in the cabover, and I'm down below on the the dinette convertible. Gets lonesome when you've been sleeping together for thirty-eight years.


See y'all on the roads, or in the parks.

tonyj & Shirley
'66 AVION C-10
'86 F-250 6.9 DIESEL
KJ4OEQ 146.520MHz
CB Channel 7


Posted By: garryk6 on 07/22/13 10:25pm

tonyj54 wrote:

garryk6 wrote:

For Dennis' (69cayo) question about the east west bed... We are going to do a two-piece matress, and a slider that will slide out over the two rounded corners exactly one foot. That will allow for a queen east-west bed. We also may add some storage on each end of the E/W bed...
Garry


Hey, Garry.

Did you ever get the Q/S mattress with the slider idea to work? We have our '66 set up for Shirley to sleep up in the cabover, and I'm down below on the the dinette convertible. Gets lonesome when you've been sleeping together for thirty-eight years.


We ended up going with a full size mattress. I added a piece of aluminum angle iron plywood and a piece of oak trim to make it fit.

I think there are some pics of it some where in the high teens or early 20's for the pages of this thread. Works well form my wife and I, and our twins share the dinette.

Garry


Garry K
Wife + 4 kids
Retired Military Family.... Alway's on the move....
2002 F350 CCSB 5.4 6spd 4x4 in AK
1966 Avion C-10 Truck Camper



Posted By: garryk6 on 07/22/13 10:46pm

sabconsulting wrote:

Most people won't change fridge until their old one fails (i.e. the coolant leaks out). When it does you then need to make the decision which technology to go with. Compressor fridges really benefit from a good amount of solar - much easier and neater to install on a flat roofed TC than an Avion. If you boondock for days on end without electric hookup then a propane-driven absorption fridge will probably be better for you. On the other hand we offroad a lot and park at angles an absorption fridge wouldn't cope with, have solar power and are usually moving every day so the battery is charged from the truck alternator, so a compressor fridge is a better fit for us. When you eventually have to change your fridge you will have to weigh up the pros and cons and see which fits your camping style best.

Steve.


My 66 C-10 was completely gutted when I bought it.. So I had to make a choice, buy a propane fridge/freezer, or buy a compressor fridge that could also be used as a freezer. Here in Alaska, we have the problems of not always camping where level. But we are like others here that move more than stay put, so driving each day charges our single group 24 deep cycle. We have run the fridge for 3 days so far without depleting the battery with no charging. Our Engel MT-45 does the trick well for our family and how we camp and travel. Some day we will add solar and another battery or two to extend our range. Propane is also very expensive and some times hard to get in Alaska, so by minimizing our use of propane to the stove and catalytic heater. Hopefully soon we will have a front rack to carry our generator we got for free. This will also make extended boon docking easier. The new 40 gallon water tAnk fits well, with room for the new water pump. We carry our C10 on a shortbed truck, so I have tried to keep overall weight down, and as much weight of the remaining shifted as far forward as possible.


I say this not to change anyone's mind, but to explain why we chose to build our camper the way we have.

Good luck, and keep the pictures coming!

Garry in AK


Posted By: ticki2 on 07/23/13 06:45am

NJAvion wrote:

Took off the metal plate under the rear fiberglass tub that covers the black water valve and P-trap for the shower. I am working on getting the shower pan out.

Question: what would be the best way to unscrew the nut on the ABS shower drain? Meaning, the thing in the hole in the floor here:

[image]

Do I need to take off the whole fiberglass pan? Does somebody make a really stubby crescent wrench I could use?

Also, at first glance the underside of my black tank looks solid, a little rusting at the bottom screws but that's about it. Folks who redid their leaky tanks, how did yours look compared to this?

[image]

Thanks all,
- Stefan



IIRC the shower drain unscrews from the top . If you don't have the proper wrench you can make one with a piece of flat bar cut at the bottom so you have two prongs that will go into the drain holes . Then put a vise-grip on the bar and turn counter clockwise . If it is really stuck you may have to cut the black pipe and replace the fitting . You can get them at most any RV store . The nut in the picture is not a nut but a way to hold the pipe if needed when you screw or unscrew the top .

From the picture your black tank seems to be in good condition . Go easy on those rusted bolts , they are threaded into the plastic tank . If and when you replace them , use stainless steel bolts .


'68 Avion C-11
'02 GMC DRW D/A flatbed


Posted By: NJAvion on 07/23/13 08:24am

Right you are, Ticki - jammed some pliers into the drain and unscrewed it that way. Floor under the shower looks maybe decent, aside from some sagging near the sink drain corner. There was chunky white Styrofoam under the pan -- how they thought that would hold up to regular use is beyond me.


Posted By: 69 Avion on 07/23/13 08:58am

My Black Water tank looked like new, but it was exposed to the Arizona heat for 43 years. When I first tested it, it held water just fine. After doing much of the interior of the camper, and adding a gray water tank, I tested the Black Water tank again and it had many hairline cracks. I replaced it with a custom stainless steel tank that I designed. My new tank holds about 20 gallons. I think the original tank on my C-11 was around 12 gallons.


Ford F-350 4x4 Diesel
1988 Avion Triple Axle Trailer
1969 Avion C-11 Camper


Posted By: Jamm3r on 07/24/13 01:50pm

NJAvion wrote:

Took off the metal plate under the rear fiberglass tub that covers the black water valve and P-trap for the shower. I am working on getting the shower pan out.

Question: what would be the best way to unscrew the nut on the ABS shower drain? Meaning, the thing in the hole in the floor here:

Do I need to take off the whole fiberglass pan? Does somebody make a really stubby crescent wrench I could use?


I was unable to unscrew the drain from above. Whether you can do so will depend mainly on what kind of sealant was used between the drain and the tub. I had to cut the pipe at the trap and unscrew it with a pipe wrench.

The shower pan is ABS, not fiberglass.

Quote:


Also, at first glance the underside of my black tank looks solid, a little rusting at the bottom screws but that's about it. Folks who redid their leaky tanks, how did yours look compared to this?


Mine had patches from previous repairs.

I sanded it and patched it with epoxy and fiberglass mat, then overcoated it, using components from West System.


1971 Cayo C-11 truck camper, 2010 Airstream Classic, 1997 Chevrolet K2500, 2004 Chevrolet Suburban 2500 8.1.



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