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ditto, unless you un-bolt the axle springs from the axle or get out the torch to move the frame hangers, you will not change the alignment.
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pritch272
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Wow, what an all day affair. Bought the kit last June and finally got to installing it. Good kit, but a royal PITA. I ended up doing one side in 3.5 hours. Then I fell over backwards on the tire on the ground, hurt my arm, so did the other side 1 handed, still took 3.5 hours for the other side. My inserts were still in good shape, so could have left them for another year or three. Currently have a little over 8700 miles on the rig.
The only thing I can add is that I used a ground down old bolt to get the new bushings in, worked really great, they pushed out the old as the new were being pounded in.
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birdman7389
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I used a 11 or 12mm 1/4" drive socket with an extension to get the old plastic bushings out, and a c-clamp to put the bronze ones in. Was not hard at all on mine, no special tools or excessive hammer pounding.
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pritch272
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Perhaps "pounded" was too stern of a verb, let's say I used the hammer to tap the bushings in which pushed the old ones out really nice. The key is to use an old bolt with the ridges ground off.
Glad I brought a C-clamp with me, came in handy holding the plates together while "pounding" the old bolts out. Putting penetrating oil on the old hardware the day before I'm sure had to have helped.
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This 3-in-1 ball joint press service kit from HF was well worth the $30 I spent on it... It's pretty heavy, especially when I had to finish up the second side one-armed.
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As another poster noted, the C-clamp is useful in getting the plates in position.
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Had to use some help to align the outboard spring eye, just enough off I needed the assist.
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Many thanks to all the previous posters in this thread whose helpful tips made the difference in a manageable install vs one plagued with problems, as I'm sure I would have had.
Now, if I hadn't fallen over backwards over the tire on the ground, I be ok, so don't forget safety.
Great thread, thanks!
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JBarca
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Hi Pritch
Nice pics. Sorry about your arm. Bummer.
This pic, WOW now that is a lift kit. A spacer block on top of the axle seat with the spring pack on top??
Did it come from the factory that way?
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pritch272
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JBarca wrote:Hi Pritch
Nice pics. Sorry about your arm. Bummer.
This pic, WOW now that is a lift kit. A spacer block on top of the axle seat with the spring pack on top??
Did it come from the factory that way?
Thanks
John
You've got a keen eye, John-
No, I took the trailer to a truck shop to raise it for the 15" to 16" upgrade to XPS Ribs a couple of years ago.
Getting a cast later today after it was determined that I fractured my elbow. As they say, safety is job one. At least I finished the trailer....
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JBarca
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pritch272 wrote:
You've got a keen eye, John-
No, I took the trailer to a truck shop to raise it for the 15" to 16" upgrade to XPS Ribs a couple of years ago.
Getting a cast later today after it was determined that I fractured my elbow. As they say, safety is job one. At least I finished the trailer....
Yeh, we all walk away from pic with differnt things. I was also looking at how Keystone added the angle iron to beef up the hanger flex on the I beam. Never seen it put on that way. I added 1/4 x 2 flat bar 18" long on mine to spread the load out and stiffen up the hanger from flexing.
Ah, the 16" tire lift trick! Never thought of that one as the need. I take it they undersized the tire capacity 1 load range from the factory? Or your trying to get out of ST radials?
In a cast ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/eek.gif "eek") Best of luck to a speedy recovery.
John
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pritch272
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Got out of the ST world. When Keystone recalled the 15" Milestars and offered to buy them back I took that as an opportunity to upgrade to 16" and good tires. It was just a little too close for my comfort (clearance above the tires), so added another 1.5 inches.
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Nice job pritch - sorry about your arm - hey - stuff happens eh ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/awink.gif "awink")
You did the same thing I said in my original posting here - ground down a bolt to ease the task of insertion of the new bushings... That HF tool is a lifesaver isn't it??
Hope your arm is doing better
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pritch272
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LAdams wrote:Nice job pritch - sorry about your arm - hey - stuff happens eh
You did the same thing I said in my original posting here - ground down a bolt to ease the task of insertion of the new bushings... That HF tool is a lifesaver isn't it??
Hope your arm is doing better
Les
Indeed you did, Les. I didn't realize that you also used it to push out the plastic bushings, I must have missed or forgotten that info when I read your post. Thanks to your detailed post and the others that followed!
I was thinking about being really cheap and instead of using the HF tool to borrow one from Advance Auto, but once I saw the size of the one from Advance Auto (really big), I stuck with the HF. Definitely the way to go. I'll probably never have a need to use it again.
Fortunately, I did not need a cast, just a splint as it was only a fracture and nothing was really apart bone-wise. It's still pretty sore, but getting better by the day.
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