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Topflight and Jimbo have it pegged. Couldn't agree more.
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Fezziwig
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[A HREF="http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/aeo/otheranalysis/ongr.html"]Government Energy Information Administration report[/A]
The projections in the OCS access case indicate that access to the Pacific, Atlantic, and eastern Gulf regions would not have a significant impact on domestic crude oil and natural gas production or prices before 2030....any impact on average wellhead prices is expected to be insignificant.
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mrjimboalaska
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Well Fezz,
I see that you are the Speaker of the House's biggest Fan!
Solar Power......great Idea! But, once again I believe you have no idea of the COST/ROE of PV. See, My bride and I, when she retires, are going to build a stand alone house on my place in Idaho. PV and Wind are really my only options as power is 7 miles away and most likely never get closer.
A conventional home (2400sq. ft., with well, wired AC) the cost to add a power system would be $35-40K THis is with Passive as well as PV and 1 Turbine, Battery Backup for 6 days.
Now, I build a home wired DC, LED lighting, DC appliances, I can add an additional $10K to the cost. DC appliances are NOT CHEAP, and LED lighting is about 30x traditional in cost. may save on having to generate less AC, although, will still need it to run a Microwave and Satelite/Tv's/Computers.
Are you still with me? good. Components will start failining from say 7-12 years, Batteries, PV Panels, Wind Turbine Bearings and coils, inverters, appliances.
Really comes down to being MORE expensive that power pulled from the grid. In this case, I don't care, as I want a stand alone system. Our plans also call for a fresh water system for the Roof, and grey water sytem, to water up close landscaping.
Shoot 1 Elk, 1 Deer a year. Butcher 1 cow 2 pigs and 40 chickens and we are good to go. Close to wide open country making camping close and easy, and possible on Horseback.
Don't get me wrong. I am NO GLOBAL WARMER, but want to be off the grid, and away from Metro USA. We are having fun with the Houseplans always changing....
Last I say on the subject....DRILL HERE DRILL NOW PAY LESS
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topflite51
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I believe Fezz is smokin' some of the Speaker's special stash.
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AO_hitech
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Can we avoid personal attacks?
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Fezziwig
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Take a look at this:
www.nanosolar.com
Solar power at $1/w, using nano technolgy and a printing process to make panels. $100million financing, and pilot models in place.
If I had a 2400 sq ft. house in Idaho with solar plans I'd be beating their door down to get a deal to install a pilot model.
People would do better spending their free time studying and learning than writing diatribes against politicians. Or accusing people of guilt-by-association.
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mrjimboalaska wrote:UNTIL, and mark my word on this, a certain Party gets majority power in our legislative branch of Government, and maybe control of the Executive Branch as well.
That party of which you speak already has a majority in both houses. What they are waiting for is a change in the executive branch.![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/frown.gif "frown")
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topflite51
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Fezziwig wrote:Take a look at this:
www.nanosolar.com
Solar power at $1/w, using nano technolgy and a printing process to make panels. $100million financing, and pilot models in place.
If I had a 2400 sq ft. house in Idaho with solar plans I'd be beating their door down to get a deal to install a pilot model.
People would do better spending their free time studying and learning than writing diatribes against politicians. Or accusing people of guilt-by-association. That's funny . I have a quote for solar, and it would take me 21 years for recovery, and if I add in wind its 17 years. Guess what? I am 59 soon to be 60, IT ANIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. Am I selfish? Nope, I am a realist. You need OIL whether you believe it or not. I am still lookiing for those dropcords, just wondering how big they have to be.
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mrjimboalaska
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Fezz,
I have no doubt that price per KWH is going to continue to drop, Shrinking of silicon die is nothing new, that is how we were able to make 64M DRAM/FLASH chips on die smaller than a 64k die was in 1992 in a matter of just 5 years. Micron Technologies led the way in shrink technology for quite some time, and it helped the 401K!
The Navy actually put some thin film on a Hanger on Pearl Harbor Naval Base while we were stationed at Hickam, not working as promised, but it was at an infancy state. I hear that some Government Offices in Phoenix is planning some too.
Sorry, I've done my homework, and being that I don't have a bottomless pocket, will go with PROVEN Technology. I'll leave wasting money to the GOvernment. I'll watch with interest at what Private Enterprise starts using(and ARE using).
Maybe YOU should ACTUALLY price a working system, you may shock yourself.
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mrjimboalaska
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topflite51 wrote:That's funny . I have a quote for solar, and it would take me 21 years for recovery, and if I add in wind its 17 years. Guess what? I am 59 soon to be 60, IT ANIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. Am I selfish? Nope, I am a realist. You need OIL whether you believe it or not. I am still lookiing for those dropcords, just wondering how big they have to be.
When people who are serious actually set down with a planner and realize the Cost/ROE factors of a Solar/Wind Power system, they realize it is a break even AT BEST.
On the ENVIRONMENTAL side, it ACTUALLY turns out to be negative in terms of Energy used to Manufacture, and toxins in desposal. Something that the Global Warmers close there eyes to in their quest to Kill Oil.
and don't get me going on the light bulb scam they are running!
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