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Very interesting program on China.
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Bob Woodruff examines China's power ABC correspondent went to three continents for docu By Paul J. Gough Aug 4, 2008, 12:00 AM ET
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NEW YORK -- The reporting for "China Inside Out: Bob Woodruff Reports" took the ABC News correspondent to three continents for work on a one-hour documentary that examines China's growing power in the world.
Woodruff and his crew traveled to Angola, Brazil and Cambodia tracking how the Chinese have become major players on the world scene. As documented by "China Inside Out," the Chinese are doing business in Mato Grosso, Brazil's soy fields so they can help feed their 1.3 billion people. China. Thousands of Chinese are working in the African country of Angola as the two countries help each other, with Angola receiving a major infrastructure boost while China gets access to millions of barrels of oil. But China is also looking to its neighbors like Cambodia for its relationships.
"The Chinese are all over the world in the age of China globalization," Woodruff said. "Initially, we decided we'd do a story on China's growth without going to China."
Of course, in the nine months of reporting, Woodruff and his crew did go to China too. It's a country that holds importance to Woodruff's career. He was a lawyer and teacher in Beijing when the Tiananmen Square protests began in 1989. He was hired as a translator for American broadcast journalists covering the story, and discovered that he wanted to be a journalist. That's the track he followed when he left China, eventually leading to ABC News.
"It's a completely different country than when I was there," Woodruff said.
Instead of mostly bicycles, there are cars everywhere. There's a large rise in the middle class and a move from other parts of the country to the East Coast. And, as explained in the documentary, China has become a world power after years of isolation.
Woodruff said that it's important that Americans understand China beyond what they'll see this month during the Olympics.
"We have a long-term relationship with them and we need to know as much as we can about what it's about and what is being accomplished and how it's changing," he said.
"China Inside Out" airs in the time slot of "Primetime" at 10 p.m. Wednesday. The executive producer is Tom Yellin.
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topflite51 wrote:mrjimboalaska wrote:Strawfoot wrote:
What I'm talking about are capital expenditures. You want more wind power and more hydro power and nuclear power, etc. But who is going to lay out the capital? Who will pay to expand energy sources?
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I see you were absent during Economics 101 eh?
The consumer will pay for the end product, thus allowing you to produce the product.
If you think "windfall taxes" on "Big Oil" is going to encourage them to increase capital expenditures, you are huffing glue.
first of all, business does NOT PAY TAXES, the consumer does. If my Tax Bill increases, I increase the cost of my product/service to match that increase. That insures that I still have a profit margin, which insures that my employees get paid, that I pay my premium on their Health Insurance, and their 401k accounts are funded.
Nuclear power is the cheapest to produce, then Coal, then Hydro, then Oil, then LNG, then wind, then Solar, Why are we not building Nuclear Power Plants(which will be REQUIRED if you get a electric fleet of cars roaming the roads and plugging in every night)?
EIS, NIMBY's, and Greenpeace.....Court battles.....
If you think the GOVERNMENT can manage our Energy Production, you are lost, they cant even manage keeping our roads in good shape...gee, wonder where all that fuel tax goes? Gee, wonder where all that revenue from Vehicle Registration goes?
Gee, wonder where all our Social Security Taxes went?
As for me, I demand Fire Service, Police Service, Good Schools for my kids, and Good Roads.....Oh, and I pay for those services thru TAXES.
SO, TELL ME AGAIN THE BENEFIT OF PAYING MORE TAXES?
guess I'll go inflate my tires and solve the energy problem...... Have to agree with Jimbo. The last thing government needs is more of my money to squander. I can squander it all by myself, THANK YOU! ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
For some Economics 101 is where they learned to cook up screwy ideas like paying more taxes. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/doh.gif "doh")
Second that for JIMBO!!!! He is right on the mark and put it absolutley perfect.!!
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macira wrote:Strawfoot. The world has already had a failed example of Governmant directed and controlled industry and development. That was the USSR, even now Comunist China is far from that Marxist-Leninist/Socialist model.
We need Legislators that help folks do and develope industries that are honest,
and desired by folks willing to trade and buy them.
Government direction of business and development is a sure road to perdition.
Lets have "Change that works"!!
I see a world of difference between the USSR and say, NASA. Now I'm no fan of NASA but the U.S. government decided on a mission for the country. It set a ten year timetable and acquired the funding. Personally I feel it has been mostly a waste of money. We don't need to spend a few hundred billion dollars trying to send a human to Mars, just to prove it won't work.
However, that is the spirit I'm trying to get across. A project for our country to quickly move towards energy independence. I'm not saying the government should run everything. But how do you get 100 new dams and 100 new nuclear plants built without the government?
Gridlock is the result of people dragging their feet or opposing something and blocking all progress. They can have good reasons. They might not want to pay higher taxes. Sadly, they'll pay $10 a gallon for gasoline in five years, and still only be able to buy a limited amount each month due to rationing, but they won't have the insight to support building hydro-electric dams and nuclear power plants to provide a clean energy source that can't be manipulated by foreign countries.
I refuse to accept your notion that building new dams and nuclear power plants makes us like the USSR. I doubt we can do it without involving the U.S. government. We need new energy sources on a huge scale. 100,000 wind turbines, 100 or more nuclear power plants, hydro-electric dams by the dozens, solar panels on every roof, geo-thermal plants, tidal power plants. Now, how does it happen? What are you suggesting?
For all of you living in California, why do you suppose they lead the nation in getting home owners and businesses to install solar panels? I think it's simple. They offer the largest tax break. I believe it's around 50% of the cost that gets refunded. Now you might not agree with the government handing out tax breaks for a select group of people, but it works. If my state offered that kind of deal, I'd order solar panels for my roof. I already have two panels on my fiver and love the solar system that allows me to dry camp and still have all the power needed to run my stereo and television.
Let's get some ideas from all those who say no to paying a tax to get new energy solutions. Don't tell me what won't work. Don't tell me the government always fails. Tell me how to get new, clean, reliable energy sources in the U.S.
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The consumer will pay for the end product, thus allowing you to produce the product. - Jimbo
first of all, business does NOT PAY TAXES -Jimbo
Second that for JIMBO!!!! He is right on the mark and put it absolutley perfect.!! - The Weekenders
Explain how Jimbo was right on the mark. He states that because the consumer will pay for nuclear power, hyro-electric power, and solar power, this allows "you" to produce those products. Is that what they were teaching in economics class? Who is "you" and where do they get the authority to build dams and nuclear power plants? They just acquire the right-of-way on our rivers? They just dispose of spent nuclear fuel as they wish? They don't have to go through the government?
Businesses don't pay taxes? That's right on the mark? Exxon pays half of those large profits back to the government in taxes. Maybe Jimbo can explain to them that they needn't bother paying taxes. Our corporate taxes are about the highest in the world, but don't tell Jimbo.
Come om people, we can do better than this. How about some ideas. You know, solutions. I get it; you hate the way our government has failed you in the past. But at the same time you are still getting those prescription drugs paid for and you are still cashing your social security checks, even if you are 80 years old and have taken out twice as much as you ever paid in. You don't hate the government, you hate some of what government does and embrace other things they do. If you are a member of AARP, you are part of a huge political organization that tries to milk the government at every opportunity. You want them paying for all your medical needs and handing the bills to the next generation of taxpayers. Look at those colorful pie charts explaining where our taxes go. It use to be Medicare and Medicaid represented 1-2% of government spending. Soon they will be 30% and they will bankrupt the government. You can complain about our government but you can't do so while milking taxpayers because of a government program you happen to embrace.
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1966:
Defense: 43.0%;
Social Security: 15.0%;
Medicare & Medicaid: 1.0%;
Net interest: 7.0%;
All other spending: 34.0%.
1986:
Defense: 28.0%;
Social Security: 20.0%;
Medicare & Medicaid: 10.0%;
Net interest: 14.0%;
All other spending: 29.0%.
2006:
Defense: 20.0%;
Social Security: 21.0%;
Medicare & Medicaid: 19.0%;
Net interest: 9.0%;
All other spending: 32.0%.
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Strawfoot wrote:The consumer will pay for the end product, thus allowing you to produce the product. - Jimbo
first of all, business does NOT PAY TAXES -Jimbo
Second that for JIMBO!!!! He is right on the mark and put it absolutley perfect.!! - The Weekenders
Explain how Jimbo was right on the mark. He states that because the consumer will pay for nuclear power, hyro-electric power, and solar power, this allows "you" to produce those products. Is that what they were teaching in economics class? Who is "you" and where do they get the authority to build dams and nuclear power plants? They just acquire the right-of-way on our rivers? They just dispose of spent nuclear fuel as they wish? They don't have to go through the government?
Businesses don't pay taxes? That's right on the mark? Exxon pays half of those large profits back to the government in taxes. Maybe Jimbo can explain to them that they needn't bother paying taxes. Our corporate taxes are about the highest in the world, but don't tell Jimbo.
Come om people, we can do better than this. How about some ideas. You know, solutions. I get it; you hate the way our government has failed you in the past. But at the same time you are still getting those prescription drugs paid for and you are still cashing your social security checks, even if you are 80 years old and have taken out twice as much as you ever paid in. You don't hate the government, you hate some of what government does and embrace other things they do. If you are a member of AARP, you are part of a huge political organization that tries to milk the government at every opportunity. You want them paying for all your medical needs and handing the bills to the next generation of taxpayers. Look at those colorful pie charts explaining where our taxes go. It use to be Medicare and Medicaid represented 1-2% of government spending. Soon they will be 30% and they will bankrupt the government. You can complain about our government but you can't do so while milking taxpayers because of a government program you happen to embrace.
1966:
Defense: 43.0%;
Social Security: 15.0%;
Medicare & Medicaid: 1.0%;
Net interest: 7.0%;
All other spending: 34.0%.
1986:
Defense: 28.0%;
Social Security: 20.0%;
Medicare & Medicaid: 10.0%;
Net interest: 14.0%;
All other spending: 29.0%.
2006:
Defense: 20.0%;
Social Security: 21.0%;
Medicare & Medicaid: 19.0%;
Net interest: 9.0%;
All other spending: 32.0%.
Not sure where YOU took economics but your take on it is entertaining none the less. Jimbo speaks the truth. Just so you know.
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Weekender wrote:
"Not sure where YOU took economics but your take on it is entertaining none the less. Jimbo speaks the truth. Just so you know."
I doubt if he ever took economics. Jimbo definitely speaks the truth.
CA is offering tax breaks for installing solar energy, they are doing so well at it they are going broke. That's government for you. But not to worry they will just raise fees and taxes.
You have mentioned Social Security and Medicare, both are fine examples of government at its finest. Another raise in taxes is looming on the horizon for those.
100 dams, where? There is constant talk of removing dams by governmental agencies, not building more.
Nuclear power plants? The government only needs to issue the permits and stop the frivolous lawsuits. If the American consumer wants them, the power companies, which are all ready regulated, will build them. But the CONSUMER has to be willing to PAY for them, and I don't mean by taxes.
Every business I know of gets their money from their customer's, if their taxes are raised, the prices are raised. So to keep it simple, if Exxon's taxes are raised, the price they charge for fuel will increase. That is basic economics. So it is safe to say NO business pays taxes, their customers do.
Your little line "In particular the older generation" is totally uncalled for, and is a statement of ignorance. All the older generation wants is what was PROMISED them. Nothing more, nothing less. Our government can't even keep those promises, and you want to raise taxes and give them more money? Makes no sense. They will raise taxes no doubt, but they won't be spending it on energy, and that I have no doubt either.
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Strawfoot,
This "Old Timer" 44 year old...now that's funny, don't care who ya are....
Tell me, how did the Alaska Pipeline get built? Reagan said, Build it, and there is NOT going to be any lawsuits hindering it. THAT IS HOW GOVERNMENT CAN HELP!
Tell our Energy Corporations that, 1) NIMBY"S will not have the judicial power to hold you in court for years, so start building....
2) Fast-track all EIS, and other GOVERMENT hindrences so that construction can start ASAP.
THAT IS HOW GOVERNMENT CAN HELP...
Let's face it, for our economy to GROW, we need ENERGY....so there will still be a demand for the energy these companies produce, thus, a profit can be made and guess what, NO NEED TO TAX THE PEOPLE MORE.
By the way, this will ALSO put people to work in High Tech Jobs and on down the line. WIN WIN, with NO NEW TAXES(and more people paying payroll taxes)....what a concept.
By the way, have you seen how wonderfully the State of California is doing financially these days? Worse than under Gray Davis. And how about the idea that the STATE could control the Thermostat IN YOUR OWN HOME....I'd be cutting the wires.........
Medicare....I don't embrace it at ALL, and the new Prescription Drug program, you are right, is going to Bankrupt us by 2014.....and is the reason we need change in Washington, NOT THE MESSIAH though....
I HAVE PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE
1) Congressional Retirement Plan should be SCRAPED...and EVEN THOSE COLLECTING IT, put on Social Security, BET THAT MIGHT GET SOME ACTION TO REFORM SS, eh?
2) a COMPLETE replacement of the people holding seats in the Senate and the House.
3) COMPLETE reform of "Free Trade Agreements" to "FAIR TRADE AGREEMENTS", that MATCH tariffs, Labor Laws, and Environmental Laws of our country to the trading Partner, OR GUESS WHAT, NOT TRADE! Maybe we would be able to make TV'S,
Shoes, Computer Parts, and ALL OTHER kinds of products HERE instead of overseas. THAT IS FAIR TRADE FOR ALL, NOT FREE TRADE FOR EVERYONE BUT US.
YOU can keep your Socialist ways, I'm ALL ABOUT CAPITALISM, my friend.
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Topflight51, YOU GET IT! and many others have spoke up as well, we need to keep up the DRILL HERE DRILL NOW CAMPAIGN, even after that fuel prices come down, because after NOV. BAD THINGS MIGHT HAPPEN.
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Mr Jimbo has the right answers.. We require a Government that lets Business do the things they do well. Making money the "old fashioned way", by honestly investing and reaping honest returns.
Government actions that influence winners and losers in business is wrong, socialist and in the end a trainwreck.
If ethanol for instance is a winner without subsidies, so be it, but
lets not back it with Tax money. If electric cars are winners let car builders foot the development costs.
Let Government monitor and punish cheaters on all fronts, but not penalize honest winners.
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[quote=Strawfoot]… Who is "you" and where do they get the authority to build dams and nuclear power plants? They just acquire the right-of-way on our rivers? They just dispose of spent nuclear fuel as they wish? They don't have to go through the government? Like you, I think there has to be a “central authority” to determine and develop our needs (roads, dams, etc.) and then businesses’ “social investments” can follow if the economic potential is proven or viable.
… Exxon pays half of those large profits back to the government in taxes…Then they aren’t profits are they? If they weren’t taxed, their profits would be double what they are now and that would probably be politically intolerable. Our corporate taxes are about the highest in the world…Exxon Mobil seems to be weathering their tax burden rather well. [=/quote]
… I get it; you hate the way our government has failed you in the past. For example, what do you have in mind? But at the same time you are still getting those prescription drugs paid for and you are still cashing your social security checks, even if you are 80 years old and have taken out twice as much as you ever paid in. Against my wishes, the government demanded that I join Social Security and I paid my dues for thirty plus years. Now, I damn well expect them to uphold their part of the “agreement”. I don’t consider SS a handout because my participation was forced and my wages garnished. It was the government’s decision to make Social Security part of the “system”, not mine or millions of others.
You don't hate the government, you hate some of what government does and embrace other things they do.Of course, who doesn’t? Isn’t that part of the “human condition”?
If you are a member of AARP, you are part of a huge political organization that tries to milk the government at every opportunity. What would you call big oil’s political organization that tries to milk the government at every opportunity? I’d call it an uncontrollable, humongous, lobby.
You want them paying for all your medical needs and handing the bills to the next generation of taxpayers. That’s because:
(a) doctors won’t take chickens for payment anymore.
(b) life expectancies have increased significantly since the inception of the Social Security program.
(c) grandma and grandpa used to die at home with some semblance of dignity; now they can prolong death while diluting the “quality” of the process. It’s been said that Eskimos used to place an old, “terminally sick” person on an ice floe and they were given a push to help them float their way to nirvana. I guess your right about the fact we have to change things like this. Considering the global warming problem, it’s been recently determined that properly sized ice floes are now impossible to locate. To solve the problem, the Eskimos bought a circus “human cannon” and now are teaching the funeral director how to calculate grandpa’s final trajectory to the nearest suitable ice flow sans polar bears. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/wink.gif "wink")
(d) public perception of death has changed over the years. People’s final days are many times prolonged and without accompanying quality of life. It benefits the drug companies and health industry, not the government that’s making Medicare/Medicaid payments – just take a look at a hospital bill some time. It’s apparent to me that many hospitals, though declared a non profit organization, are making, what most of us would consider to be, huge profits.
(e) I do think the government made a huge error by allowing and nurturing public and corporate welfare to a point of uncontrollability. Actually, it probably was a discovery of a very effective way for politicians to buy votes with public monies. Additionally, I think that social, business and political ethics have declined over the years and that compounds many of our problems.
…You can complain about our government but you can't do so while milking taxpayers because of a government program you happen to embrace…Who’s being milked—the taxpayers who are bailing out greedy businesses and a relative few stupid homeowners? What programs are “we” embracing?
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