Max S.
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Hey guys, I was just browsing the Internet and I was trying to find the ways to save some money on gas and my wife found an excellent web site that offers cash back GAS Credit Cards
To be honest I have never heard of anything like that before and before I will sign up for one, I want to hear anything from you guys. I mean is it worth to try one, have any of you tried any of those cards? Thanks in advance.
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AO_hitech
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eltejano1 wrote:I can't run video because of my phone lines...
They don't say what it really is. However, the explanation (hydrogen from the water converted into electrons to power the car) give the impression that it is a fuel cell. If they have advanced fuel cell technology far enough it is certainly possible to power an electric car with one.
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eltejano1
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Max:
Our Exxon card refunds 3% on all fuel purchases - not 3 cents/gal, 3% of the whole purchase. Trouble is they're usually higher. My wife does the math on her calculator to see which is cheaper - Exxon less 3% or another station with a lower price. It usually works-out about the same - Love's Truck stop @ $3.97 or the Exxon across the street @ $4.17. They definitely raise the price to cover the discount. My wife thinks it's a big deal, but it's really not worth the trouble to go out of your way to find an Exxon station.
Jack
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eltejano1
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HiTech:
Power an electric car with a hydrogen fuel cell? Is that the deal? I thought it burned the hydrogen directly in some sort of internal combustion engine. What the h... is a "fuel cell"? Something like a gas tank?
Jack
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AO_hitech
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eltejano1 wrote:Power an electric car with a hydrogen fuel cell?...What the h... is a "fuel cell"? Something like a gas tank?
It is kind of like a battery that converts water to electricity.
Here is a link to "how stuff works":
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-cell2.htm
In very simple terms it strips off electrons at water passes through membranes (the type of fuel cell I am referring to does). It is not new technology, but holds the promise of being the energy of the future.
I take that back. Fuel cells use hydrogen and oxygen to produce electricity and water as a by-product. Sorry, my mistake. I seem to remember seeing a show discussing using water as the fuel in a fuel cell, but that seems to be backward. So, I guess I don't know how it works. ![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/awink.gif "awink")
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Max S.
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eltejano1 wrote:Max:
Our Exxon card refunds 3% on all fuel purchases - not 3 cents/gal, 3% of the whole purchase. Trouble is they're usually higher. My wife does the math on her calculator to see which is cheaper - Exxon less 3% or another station with a lower price. It usually works-out about the same - Love's Truck stop @ $3.97 or the Exxon across the street @ $4.17. They definitely raise the price to cover the discount. My wife thinks it's a big deal, but it's really not worth the trouble to go out of your way to find an Exxon station.
Jack
Jack...
it looks like discover Open Road card let's you save at any gas station and not just one particular kind. So I guess if you use it at Love's, then you'll save there even 5% more.
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Max S.
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Here's another site I just found on this subject which goes by pumpandsave that you guys might as well want to look at. They have some nice important features like gas usage calculator, trip gas calculator, and the local gas price finder that finds the best gas prices in your area. Let me know what you guys think, I think it's pretty cool and very helpful.
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Quote: "I don't think destroying native habitats is the answer. Congress has nothing to do with building oil refineries."
Give me a break!! I lived and worked in Alaska and had a chance to work at Prudhoe as well. There is no destruction there from the last oil field work, why would you expect it now? The ANWR site would use 2000 acres in a state that encomapasses 19,000,000 acres!! You would not even see it. And there are no tourists going there to see it either. When the first pipeline was built, the line equated to stretching a 18 Ga. thread across a room that was about 18 feet square. It was barely noticeable.
Congress has a lot to do with building refineries. If they don't allow permits, refineries don't get built. They have been denying permits since Clinton vetoed the ANWR bill and long before. They also required too many "hoops" to go thru to meet EPA and other regulatory requirements that never existed before the 70's.
Unless you KNOW facts don't say how bad the environment would be hurt. It wouldn't be! The Gulf isn't even after Katrina and Rite struck. Technology has come a lone way since the 60's and 70's. It is time the myths were debunked and common sense and reason determines how we build and allow our country to prosper. NOT thru fear and scare tactics.
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Windwalker55 wrote:Camping Hoosiers wrote:...I believe that all representatives and congressmen that have served over the past twenty years should be convicted of treason and hung by the neck until dead. This would be for their crimes committed against the united states by creating the energy situation that we are in today.
With that being said, we must do a few things to start the ball rolling in the right direction.
1) Repeal all laws restricting drilling in ANWR and off of our coasts.
2) Build some refineries. Oil is useless without a way to turn it into fuel.
3) Embrace nuclear energy. We made a few bad films about Nuclear that devastated the industry.
4) Dump the subsidy and mandate for "food to fuel" programs. Admit it was a bad idea.
If we embrace some of these ideas, we may see some relief down the road. If not, we won't.
I saw yesterday where the House passed a bill allowing us to sue OPEC. That is simply insanity. If anyone should be sued it should be the idiots in Washington.
From MSNBC ASHINGTON - "Opening an Alaska wildlife refuge to oil development would only slightly reduce America’s dependence on imports and would lower oil prices by less than 50 cents a barrel, according to an analysis released Tuesday by the Energy Department.
The report, issued by the Energy Information Administration, or EIA, said that if Congress gave the go-ahead to pump oil from Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, the crude could begin flowing by 2013 and reach a peak of 876,000 barrels a day by 2025.
But even at peak production, the EIA analysis said, the United States would still have to import two-thirds of its oil, as opposed to an expected 70 percent if the refuge’s oil remained off the market."
I don't think destroying native habitats is the answer. Congress has nothing to do with building oil refineries.
I do think the ethonal idea is insane. Nuclear power could be a help.
I guess that is what we get for electing an oil man president.
Camping Hoosiers: For the politicians who have created and perpetuated the energy mess I would personally settle for tarring and feathering, and save hanging for those who encourage the enemy and undermine our troops in time of war. Other than that minor quibble I agree with you completely.
Concerning MSNBC and the EIA, I would not trust the objectivity of the former, nor any government long-range economic projections. The important fact is that the United States is sitting on colossal petroleum reserves. A government commitment to unshackle them for development would send the speculators scrambling for the exits, since they are all counting on government anti-energy policies to continue. And all the nay-sayers would be astonished how fast prices would drop.
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...and I am just learning to make hangman's knots...![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/biggrin.gif "biggrin")
I wouldn't trust MSNBC and the EIA either. It is rather funny how 800,000 barrels of oil one day will only lower the price 50 cents a barrel, and on another day some senator from NY is claiming that if OPEC raised their production a million barrels a day it would cause a significant decrease in the price of a barrel of oil. Tis all very confusing. Must be an election year.![[emoticon]](http://www.coastresorts.com/sharedcontent/cfb/images/doh.gif "doh")
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