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thomasmnile

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LNG is the next big thing for ship fuel. Obviously cleaner burning than heavy oil or #2 fuel oil. The Carnival Mardi Gras cruise ship is the first LNG fueled ship to operate from the US. Mardi Gras home ports at Port Canaveral, no LNG facilities there, a barge from a facility in Georgia must come to fuel it. LNG is not as energy dense as hydrocarbon fuels, quite a bit of energy is required to keep LNG in a liquid state, and.....why do I get an image of the Hindenburg in my mind if a significant leak happens? I'm sure there are very sophisticated safety systems on the ship, but the human factor......

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The Hindenburg was hydrogen. (Oh, the Humanity.) Lots of history on the safety of LNG from Europe. Very Good. With LNG, it is hard to get rid of the excess coldness when it converts back to CNG. The long-haul trucks use this to cool the engines in place of radiators. I don't see LNG taking off in the US as we have such an extensive network of CNG pipelines. Many years ago, I would sail in Tampa Bay and see Russian LNG ships bringing it into Hooker Point. They used LNG for fuel.





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RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

I still want to know, in layman's terms, why the heck we EXPORT so much oil, and why the heck we IMPORT so much oil???


Here are the 10 countries with the highest oil production:

United States (12,108)
Russia (10,835)
Saudi Arabia (9,580)
Iraq (4,620)
Canada (4,129)
China (3,823)
United Arab Emirates (3,068)
Kuwait (2,652)


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We can now have our lawmakers amke an even larger credit to go to electric. Heck we are going there relatively soon anyways and now we have even more reasons.


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tomman58 wrote:

We can now have our lawmakers amke an even larger credit to go to electric. Heck we are going there relatively soon anyways and now we have even more reasons.


The problem is production. At this point people are discouraged by the 8 to 12 month waits for the most popular models. It will get better as more factories come on line but some of those are 2 to 3 years away. World wide sky high gas prices are just going to fuel the shift to electric but you can’t switch if there is nothing to switch to that suits your needs or budget. Oil companies are going to make a killing in the next 5 to 7 years. After that it might start to swing the other way. Some countries with high EV uptake are already seeing gas stations closing down or switching to an EV format.

Its going to be an interesting decade.

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We can now have our lawmakers amke an even larger credit to go to electric. Heck we are going there relatively soon anyways and now we have even more reasons.


If it'a all so good why should we all subsidize it?


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

tomman58 wrote:

We can now have our lawmakers amke an even larger credit to go to electric. Heck we are going there relatively soon anyways and now we have even more reasons.


If it'a all so good why should we all subsidize it?
I agree. Let existing program expire on schedule.
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pianotuna wrote:

RetiredRealtorRick wrote:

I still want to know, in layman's terms, why the heck we EXPORT so much oil, and why the heck we IMPORT so much oil???


Here are the 10 countries with the highest oil production:

United States (12,108)
Russia (10,835)
Saudi Arabia (9,580
Iraq (4,620)
Canada (4,129)
China (3,823)
United Arab Emirates (3,068)
Kuwait (2,652)


We import a lot of finished petroleum products because, word on the street is, our domestic refining capacity can't meet our demand for distillate products. Pick a day of the week, "they" offer a different reason why oil/distillates are so pricey.

Check calendars. Spring is upon us, time to trot out the refineries down for maintenance, gotta switch to summer formulation, the sun rose in the east today, blah, blah, blah......

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All crude oil is not the same. The Balkin oil is light The Canadian tar sands is very viscous as it has been sitting around near or at the surface for 400 million years. We have to ship light fractions from the US to make it less viscous so they can ship it. Very hard to keep track of it all. We are the world's largest producer of products made with oil. (Like plastics and much of what we use daily). We export and import many other products. (cheese, beer, almonds, drugs, LNG because of lack of pipelines in the NE states ETC). The failed Build Back Better Bill had an increase from $7500 to $12,500 for the EV subsidy. EV's have been right around the corner for the last 25 years.

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