wanderingbob

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Wow , DeFuniac Springs , Fl Fuel was 80 cents cheaper 2 miles away from interstate
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RetiredRealtorRick

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I still want to know, in layman's terms, why the heck we EXPORT so much oil, and why the heck we IMPORT so much oil???
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time2roll

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Set a new fill record of $125 this weekend.
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And on another note.... Shell limited my credit card to $75 for pay at the pump. So that is all they get. Kinda lame these days.
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LouLawrence

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RetiredRealtorRick wrote: I still want to know, in layman's terms, why the heck we EXPORT so much oil, and why the heck we IMPORT so much oil???
We pump oil that is the wrong type to be processed by our US refiners so we mostly export that oil and then import the oil our refiners are setup for. We been doing this for years and never have had enough sense to spend the money to change this scenario. We never do learn until it's way too late.
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propchef

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LouLawrence wrote: RetiredRealtorRick wrote: I still want to know, in layman's terms, why the heck we EXPORT so much oil, and why the heck we IMPORT so much oil???
We pump oil that is the wrong type to be processed by our US refiners so we mostly export that oil and then import the oil our refiners are setup for. We been doing this for years and never have had enough sense to spend the money to change this scenario. We never do learn until it's way too late.
It's because the newer technologies made it financially viable to extract oil (tar) when it wasn't previously feasible. We had by that time already set up our refineries.
The discussion is now about energy, not continuing the draining of a finite resource.
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Bumpyroad

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propchef wrote:
The discussion is now about energy, not continuing the draining of a finite resource.
how many years is this finite resource estimated to be available?
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1.54 per litre Gas
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LindsayRichards

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In the Jimmy Carter era, we were told we had 11 years of oil remaining. The technology has changed drastically with the introduction of fracking and horizontal drilling. We are estimated to have over a century of oil and gas now. In my estimation, a yet unknown source of energy will be discovered and most of that will remain in the ground. Politics is now drastically limiting our production of oil and gas. In the last year, we have gone from a net exporter of oil and gas to a net importer of both. The folks we are buying from now love to shout, "Death to America". I would love to see us switch to CNG for transportation fuel. It is much cheaper and safer than electricity. Over 70% of the new garbage haulers are now CNG.
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pianotuna

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LindsayRichards wrote: I would love to see us switch to CNG for transportation fuel. It is much cheaper and safer than electricity. Over 70% of the new garbage haulers are now CNG.
Why do you believe it is safer than electricity?
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LindsayRichards

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CNG is very safe. It is lighter than air and vents upwards into the air if the tank is ruptured. Used all over the nation. Works very well with equipment that works only part of the day like trash haulers, buses and personal vehicles. IC cars can be converted. Home compressors are still pretty expensive is the only reason I haven't converted my car. LNG is widely used by European long-haul truckers. The price has skyrocketed in the last year due to political reasons and the NE doesn't have anywhere the pipeline capacity to even heat homes.
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