JIMNLIN wrote:


571 FMCSA regs on door tag info does apply just as federal motor vehicle safety standards apply part 49 sect 567.4 thats says that door tag is a legal document. I never said we need a commercial license for our RVs. What those fed laws I just mention says is your mattress tag theory is just that, your theory. Door tag info is a legal document per those fed regs I mentioned above. Your saying they don't apply ?? Your kiddin' , right ??
How your/my state enforces those regs is why I keep saying , check with your state for their input on how thay enforce those FMCSA regs.
JIM

BertP wrote:

Section 110 paragraph S4.3 says that the placard (or door tag) is required and specifies what must be on it.
Bert

wadcutter wrote:

No where does anything in FMCSA refers to the door tag.

Bert wrote:

Section 110 paragraph S4.3 says that the placard (or door tag) is required and specifies what must be on it.

wadcutter wrote:

Once again you've proven my point that you don't understand what you are reading. It's talking about the "manufacturer", ie the builder.
Thanks for helping me prove my point about knowing a little and not understanding.

Wadcutter wrote:

Once again, none of that matters. FMCSA doesn't apply to you pulling your TT, 5er, or driving your Class A. You aren't a motor carrier so forget there is even such a thing as FMCSA. It doesn't apply. If you think FMCSA applies then get your medical card and start filling out your log book everytime you get behind the wheel. But make sure you fill it out correctly or you'll be fined and parked out of service for at least 8 hours.

JIMNLIN wrote:



thats been covered and mentioned many times that as RVers we are not required to be commercially licensed BUT the OP asked for fed regs (FMCSA) on door tag placards (door tag) about GVWR/GAWR which is clearly used with these trucks for commercial registration per FMCSA. Looking at federal motor vehicle safety standard (FMVSS) 49 cfr part 571.110 and .120 clearly says GVWR/GAWR will be on the door placard (door tag} for under 10000 GVWR/over 10000 lb GVWR. The door tag (placard} is a legal fed document according to FMVSS cfr 49 part 567.4 if any one is interested in reading anything legal pertaining to door tag and GVAR/GAWR rating on that tag for that vehicle. So to answer the OP question about the door tag being a legal document its allLots of reading if anyones interested. If anyones interested go to your state motor vehicle web and do a search on how your state interpets the info on our LDT trucks door tag.
JIM

jmramiller wrote:

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As this is a RV forum I in no way intended the OP to be about commercial towing. I created this thread in direct response to your multitude of posts suggesting to others that if they exceed the axle ratings posted on the door sticker they are in violation of both federal and OK law per FMCSA. You have repeatedly stated that OK uses these regs for both commercial and non commercial vehicles suggesting that non commercial TV's are legally bound by the door sticker. You have repeatedly stated that if you are pulling an RV and you get weighed for any reason in OK and over the door sticker axke weights you will be cited. After reading both the FMCSA and the OK regs there is not a single instance where the RAWR on the door sticker is legally binding. The regs do not even limit the steering axle to the door sticker ratings unless the state writes it in their own codes which the FMCSA allows but does not mandate. I challange you to prove otherwise.

As far as the sticker being required by law...this is intended to protect the consumer from fraudulant claims by the manufacturer. No where in the regs that require the sticker does it require the consumer to abide by these numbers. The comparison of a mattress tag is a very good one. In fact the mattress tag clearly states that it is unlawful for the sticker to be removed by anyone other than the end user. My door sticker doesn't say anywhere that it can not be removed.